Personal Conveyance Rule change

Discussion in 'ELD Forum | Questions, Answers and Reviews' started by EZ Money, Jun 3, 2018.

  1. Makeajump

    Makeajump Medium Load Member

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    That was one of my first "Operator Error" mistakes, I thought it would stay on PC till I took it off, but it took itself off while I was in the store. I cranked up and went back to my yard, and then discovered it put me "on duty driving" for the 1.5 mile trip back, really messed up my reset.....lesson learned...
     
  2. scottied67

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    DOT regulator was wrong and the Compliance Manager believed it lol.
     
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    So this still is not any big win for drivers. Shippers and receivers can still take as long as they want then tell the drivers.to."get off of our lot " because of the conveyance time. They will.never be held accountable but the drivers will. Drivers have no lobby in DC I guess.
     
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    For the first time I used PC to travel home from the place of unloading. If I had not done it, I would have exceeded the 11 hours by 23 seconds.

    Keep Truckin AOBRD mode: After getting unloaded, I proceeded to home terminal: 240 miles away and exceeded the 11 hours by ...23 sec, yes only 23 seconds (seems there is no rounding in KT ELD) right after I stopped at my leased parking spot, although the last 2 minutes were about maneuvering and backing into the spot. I should have stopped the truck and put myself off the 3rd line before backing up... Anyway, the exclamation mark, indicating 11 hour violation was there. It disappeared right after I reclassified the drive time to be PC. Technically it was PC: Unladen, Not Dispatched, proceeding to Home Terminal and then home with Personal Vehicle.
    In the notes, I explained that I was going home unladen to live family life...

    So the thing is that instead of being in violation of 23 seconds past 11 hours I got the 4 hours included in my 34 reset. It is a bonus.

    What if I had another load lined up in the area the next week? Say... 45 miles away from the terminal. Would it disqualify the PC as moving towards the load. I am thinking 'No' - to have a load booked is not the same as being dispatched to it. Besides, everybody starts their trips more or less at home locations, without returning 240 miles where last unloaded...

    I don't know exactly why I am saying this either...I guess, I gotta rethink what else I should worry about.
     
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    Reason for edit: sleeper is 3rd ln not 2nd - had to correct that
  5. fargonaz

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    I'm jealous. Once our POS registers drive time you have to drag the log people into the whole thing, and then things get real ugly.(log people are nice but the software still sucks dirty ditch water)
     
  6. TallJoe

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    I can do it only because I am able to mess around in the Administrative panel. Being my own Safety Manager., I let myself, also a driver to have all kinds of permissions. LOL Otherwise, I'd need to be permitted to make reclassification too. I never used PC as I never actually needed it for real...always plenty of hours. This time, I was not going to let 23 seconds stick out as violation, the same way as going over 3 hours.
     
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    Unfortunately, we all know what the means, getting on his hands and knees and servicing the megas.
     
  9. TallJoe

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    I checked the FMCSA new guidelines and I found this under the sections of what is not PC:
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    7. Time spent traveling to a motor carrier’s terminal after loading or unloading from a shipper or a receiver.
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    So by going to my parking lot, I could not use PC then? If that's the case, I got it wrong then...but technically, I can't take the truck where I actually live.
     
  10. Hegemeister

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    Does PC interrupt a 10 hr break?