Personal conveyance

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by dieselpowered, Aug 6, 2019.

  1. dieselpowered

    dieselpowered Heavy Load Member

    897
    913
    May 16, 2016
    0
    I drive a short run home every night back the same place every night however sometimes I squeeze by on hos I am told I can your PC time to get back to the terminal since I am a local driver. does anyone know how this works and the actual law that would back this I drive from Dallas,tx to Muskogee, OK to Dallas, tx the run itself is 251 miles one way. the miles itself isn't bad it's the traffic out of Dallas and back.
     
  2. Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.

  3. jammer910Z

    jammer910Z Road Train Member

    2,446
    6,525
    May 28, 2015
    0
    No. You can not PC that.
    The best option is to leave a bit later to let the traffic ease off.
    You're sitting in it anyway, losing time.
    500 miles shouldn't eat up 11hrs of drive time, especially on that Super Slab.

    That would be MY solution.
    I bet if you leave 90 min later or so.. you get back at the same time.

    Try it.
     
    tscottme and Intothesunset Thank this.
  4. Intothesunset

    Intothesunset Road Train Member

    2,289
    4,880
    Apr 15, 2019
    truck
    0
    Your not local driver your regional linehaul.
    You can't PC to home, or terminal. It's all part of CFR 49 395.1(a). Which also says there are not time or mile limits for PC to park. So go fish.
     
    tscottme Thanks this.
  5. dieselpowered

    dieselpowered Heavy Load Member

    897
    913
    May 16, 2016
    0
    how is that regional if you're in a day cab?

    I have tried to leave later and later then I have fight 6 am traffic and they want me to deliver and I am back before 6 am I can T-call it at the terminal.
     
    Intothesunset Thanks this.
  6. jammer910Z

    jammer910Z Road Train Member

    2,446
    6,525
    May 28, 2015
    0
    Day cab has nothing to do with the local designation.
    You're effectively running 2500+ miles per week.
    There's OTR guys not getting that.

    Now.. if you ran DFW area 4 days, and ran Oklahoma 1 day.. that would be local.
    Maybe a 3/2 split. That's pushing it.

    How much time are you spending at the OK terminal when you are there?

    4hrs up
    4hrs back
    Leave at 7ish.. with a 30 and switch out time that puts you back at 4am-5am tops.

    You should breeze in.
     
    Intothesunset Thanks this.
  7. Intothesunset

    Intothesunset Road Train Member

    2,289
    4,880
    Apr 15, 2019
    truck
    0
    If you were truly local you would not need a log book.
     
    jammer910Z Thanks this.
  8. dieselpowered

    dieselpowered Heavy Load Member

    897
    913
    May 16, 2016
    0
    Not at a terminal in OK we just swap loads at a truck stop with another driver he goes back north and I go back south I do 30 mins for the required 30 min break at the Muskogee if it wasn't for the dam break I personally would head back. I find that break more a nuisance than anything. after the 30 mins I head back to Dallas. I pray one day remove the mandatory 30 mins break I don't eat lunch.

    As for the time as mention before they will try have me deliver thus screwing my time further once while I will take TCALL regardless of what they want because I know time is a too close mess with.I like having more than 30 mins on my clock when I reach the yard. Dallas is a headache to drive in. So I do my damnest to make it by no later than 4 am
     
    Intothesunset Thanks this.
  9. ZVar

    ZVar Road Train Member

    10,911
    23,833
    Sep 10, 2010
    Flint, MI
    0
    You cannot pc, but it has nothing to do with regional, which is not a term FMCSA cares about.
    You cannot because you are moving at the direction of the motor carrier.

    Examples of Uses of a CMV that Would Not Qualify as Personal Conveyance
    Time spent traveling to a motor carrier’s terminal after loading or unloading from a shipper or a receiver.

    Now since you start/finish at the same location every day, you can use the 16 hour once a week. Doesn't help with drivetime, but helps if you get stuck at the shipper.
     
    tscottme Thanks this.
  10. Last Time Around

    Last Time Around Medium Load Member

    609
    833
    Jun 9, 2018
    0
    If I'm reading this correctly.... Does this turn take you approximately 13 1/2 hours every day?

    Reason I ask, Is that years ago, I used to run Dearborn/Romulus Mi ( Detroit Suburbs ) to Sharonville, Ohio ( northern Cincinnati Suburb ) Approx 250 ish both ways.... If I started at 4pm, I got back around 5-6am.... when I brought it to management attention.... If I left at 2pm, I got back midnight/1am. This also included breaking a set in Toledo maybe 25% of time, or Dayton maybe 10% of time.
    There where many days it would take 9.5 hours.... that depended on breakbulk ....
    Also leaving late at approx 6pm... It'd still take roughly 10-11 hours. That 4pm time was the killer...
     
    ZVar and jammer910Z Thank this.
  11. Grumppy

    Grumppy Trucker Forum STAFF Staff Member

    3,245
    11,494
    Dec 11, 2010
    West Monroe, La
    0
    Personally, I call local within 100 air miles. Just me though...
    When I worked for Wasted Management... ah I mean Waste Management.... we ran about 10 Parishes (Counties) & that was local.
    When I left there & started running 4 states (La, Ms, Ar & East TX) that was a short regional to me.
    When I started running about 20 states from TX to Fla, to Virginia's, to Chicago to Kansas & back to TX & all the states within that circle,... that was OTR.
    I'm now back to those same 4 states. To me, that's barely regional... but in all honesty, I know technically it is. (The company I work for calls 100 air miles "City work" & our 4 states "Local work". I beg to differ but again, that's just me.)
     
  • Truckers Report Jobs

    Trucking Jobs in 30 seconds

    Every month 400 people find a job with the help of TruckersReport.