Post Gordon ~ Thoughts, Commentary & Reflections

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  1. double yellow

    double yellow Road Train Member

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    ● To have that load appear in more people's searches
    ● To put you at a negotiating disadvantage (when they tell you it isn't actually x city, it puts you off balance by weakening your prior knowledge & preparation)

    TQL is infamous for this -- I usually make them wait on hold while I replot the actual run & then I add a little extra to my quote for the aggravation.

    Recent example: "Sacramento to Casper" was really Corning CA (120 miles north of Sacramento) to Boulder WY (120 miles west of Casper). They were quick to claim "Its only x loaded miles," but those miles were based on roads restricted to 65' overall lengths (yet they were requiring a 53' trailer). And that still put you in the middle of nowhere WY looking for your next load
     
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  3. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    Yes, to all of the above. Plus, after a while you see a town and know it's either x or y shipper. They want to hide who's shipping right now before other brokers get wind of it. Lots of brokers re-broker loads. The one I'm waiting for the CFO to send the set up package back, a $600 load, TQL offers same load for $400, trying to take $200 off the top.

    Recent Peoria~Winona, MN paid $850, was a re-brokered load.

    Dunno what it paid to start.


    //Finally, the set up package got back to Meredith. Have rate con and an emailed back-and-forth re TONU and $50 wait and we're good. BTW, this double-stroke idea to indicate a later thought came from double yellow, too.
     
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    double yellow Road Train Member

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    yep, & good luck when on a rebrokered load and the shipper doesn't like your PU number. Count on at least a 30 minute wait for your next attempt (& God help you if it is after business hours)
     
  5. Victor_V

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    When their own load, had them withhold PU number until you call from the shipper. That's how much they trust other brokers...

    Example, Gatorade from Decatur Street in Indy, or the other one off Ameriplex. Some drivers (like me) didn't know until up at the window that a PU number was required. So go call and get to back of line again. And, yes, 30 min even day time get PU #. It isn't shipper's fault. Lots of grief over broker screw ups. So $50/hr wait over first 2 hrs. We got another $100 on top of $925 (I think it was) to Windsor, WI, north side of Madison.

    Had them also fudge on the appt, told me 2 pm and already late, was 8 am. All the same, have had some very good paying loads from TQL, not lately. Another trucker had also been told 2 pm, his appt was for 6 pm come to find out.

    Broker yesterday said, "We don't use the 'L' word. We skate a lot. Obfuscate." Very funny.
     
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  6. bearwolf

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    I might have covered this in another discussion, but brokers literally HAVE to post up loads the way they do, or they will not get calls on the loads. If there are 50 trucks posted in Sacramento, and 1 in Corning, - what are the possibilities that carrier wants to drive to wherever the heck that load is going to? We have to post them in major cities because we have to negotiate the dh miles as well into the rate because I can guarantee you, that if I posted my truck in Corning CA, you would not call on that posting because it is already too far. Then, in the back of your mind, you think oh god.. another cheap freight posting by TQL, and I am definitely not going to call on that. Make sense? What other options do we have? If your truck was in Miami FL, would you post your truck only out of Miami FL looking for a load? Or would you post it out of Orlando and Tampa to try to find a load out of that suckhole? Or you would do neither, and just dh out of FL empty handed because the freight is so freaking cheap. I don't even do FL freight because of how bad it gets out of there. It really sickens me personally to see that rates drop that way low out of there.... seriously.

    All I know is, that some of my smaller towns that I ship out of, do not show up when you do a 50 mile radius search when looking for a load. Yes I will post it to the closest metropolis AND where it is actually picking up. There are issues with the way TQL posting system operates, and I can have a load posted at 8 in the morning, and it doesn't get posted till two hours later. I can't help that, and I do what I can to cover the freight. Plus, it never hurts to ask, to calculate the dh miles into the rate, at least see what the broker can do for the dh.. I would think they (brokers) wouldn't have a conscience if they couldn't pay you anything for the empty miles. If that was the case, then yeah I totally would agree with you.
     
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    I don't see other brokers doing this. I also see comment lines where they could put the actual cities down.
     
  8. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    What do you think we think when we see 4 or 5 in a row (sometimes a lot more!!) that seem obviously just one load with different cities listed in place of the actual? This seems a TQL trademark on InternetTruckStop, not so bad on Trulos. Also relisting loads to make them 'look' fresh when they're not.

    Makes me think TQL is jamming up the board, wasting my time.

    Is there some reason TQL needs to do this and other brokers don't? And the worse the load is, seems the more TQL lists it. The best way to move a stinker, raise the rate. Stop trying to snow me. If it's a good load for me, I want it.

    If not, don't want my time wasted while I'm looking for a good load. If TQL's 'offer' is $400 similar to another broker's for $600, like the load I picked up and delivered today, I'm encouraged to ignore TQL's cheap freight.

    Did really well with Michael and Anthony for a while. Like them a lot.

    TQL is moving me from a supporter to non-supporter on TruckStop... fast.
     
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  9. Victor_V

    Victor_V Road Train Member

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    Received this PM:

    The good news would be TQL monitoring TTR for comments about them and has some concern for how they're regarded. The tone deafness remains, though. Doesn't the conversation here so far tell TQL that jamming the board up to try move too cheap loads puts TQL on my bad side??

    There's a 'reasonable' way to list a load more than 1x. Just booked--or think I have--same load with Allen Lund that I did yesterday for J-Mar. AL listed it 2x as Decatur/Champaign to Davenport/Clinton and, of course, said, "All I have left is... " AL offered $500, then $550, then okay $600 which is what I got for the same load yesterday. AL double-listed but it wasn't over the top.

    (This is a good example of load going to odd place, north of Savanna, IL along the east side of the Mississippi River and darn remote. It's neither Davenport nor Clinton as AL listed it. But I knew what it was as soon as I saw the 2 side-by-side listings. Tough to get out of and there's an active scale on Hwy 30 if you run up I-39 as I did yesterday. Fortunately, was closed. 200 over on my steers and just relying on burning off fuel... should have moved 5th wheel back. Was not expecting a scale there. Definitely active. Just lucky. 50-50 I'd been over a little on steers.)

    I just don't want my time wasted while I'm looking for a load. Need as much accurate information as quickly as possible. Get my load and move on.
     
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    Got my outbound load for Monday, will PU 'waste' soy seed
    --Talked with farmer/trucker 25-30 years hauling for Monsanto
    --Has 7 trucks including his farming
    --Over production of soy seed leads to warehouses full of it
    --Treated so can't/shouldn't feed to stock
    --We both made DELs to Buzzi cement in Greencastle, IN
    --He brought 'waste' seed corn they burn in huge boilers
    --I brought 'waste' oily water from north side Chicago
    --In smooth bore tanker to cool same boilers.
    --Also talked to really pleasant, young L/O, tall and lanky
    --After 2 years his boss wanted to sell him 2005 Volvo (Detroit engine)
    --Resisted for about 2 months but boss finally convinced him
    --Shaky for 1st 6 months but boss worked with him when short $$
    --Finally day came, called former boss with question
    --"Hey! You decide!" former boss said, "It's your truck."
    --Has put 200,000 on truck since then, from 800,000 to 1,000,000
    --Truck still pristine, looks show room inside and out
    --Has same dedicated run 2 years since started buying truck
    --5 days/week to MO, working Saturday this week, usually doesn't
    --Insurance and plates run him "about $200/week"
    --Because gets both through trucking company he's leased to
    Sometimes things just work out...
     
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    Hi Iceman1984! Thx for visiting!
     
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