Question about elogs

Zero chance of that happening. Way to much liability in shutting down a truck remotely, even if you tied the ignition into the elogs. As it stands none of them have that access, they are read only.

 

Regulations Section

Question 26: If a driver is permitted to use a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for personal reasons, how must the driving time be recorded?

Guidance:

a driver is relieved from work and all responsibility for performing work, time spent traveling from a driver’s home to his/her terminal (normal work reporting location), or from a driver’s terminal to his/her home, may be considered off-duty time. Similarly, time spent traveling short distances from a driver’s en route lodgings (such as en route terminals or motels) to restaurants in the vicinity of such lodgings may be considered off-duty time. The type of conveyance used from the terminal to the driver’s home, from the driver’s home to the terminal, or to restaurants in the vicinity of en route lodgings would not alter the situation unless the vehicle is laden. A driver may not operate a laden CMV as a personal conveyance. The driver who uses a motor carrier’s Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) for transportation home, and is subsequently called by the employing carrier and is then dispatched from home, would be on-duty from the time the driver leaves home.

A driver placed out of service for exceeding the requirements of the hours of service regulations may not drive a Commercial Motor Vehicle (CMV) to any location to obtain rest.

 

Let's be clear, you aren't using the truck for personal reasons if you are moving it from the customer to the truck stop. The customer is demanding that you remove the truck and trailer from the property, you are moving it to legal and safe parking, that's relocating equipment. That's not PC.

 

The driver does not work for the customer. The customer does not direct the actions of the driver. Once the driver is empty it is the driver's choice as to where to take their rest break. If the customer objects to the driver using their location for the rest break, then the driver may choose another location for their rest break and get there PC so long as they are not laden.

 

Seems to me that the PC allowance, is clear as the Mississippi in Mississippi. Use it, IF you get stopped, be up front with the LEO. Let them know what happened.
All you're going to get here is a bunch of mud, unladen means many things to many people.

 

For someone as anal about the HOS service points as you can be, you should know better than to try that. The guidance regarding usage of PC starts out with a driver who is relieved of all duty. If you are moving a truck because the place where it is currently parked is going to result in it being towed or a citation, then you are performing work for the company, you are not relieved of duty.

Sure, you might be able to convince a cop otherwise, but the simple fact is that using PC in that manner is a violation of the rules as written, and using an off duty status when you are performing work for the company (moving their truck to a legal parking space) is log falsification.

 

Sure if you classify the move as relocating company equipment it isn't PC, but why on earth would anybody voluntarily do that?.

I use PC to get from a customer to legal parking constantly and it is always to shower or feed my person, hence Personal Conveyance. The fact that company equipment happens to tag along is purely incidental and nothing at all to do with my choosing to move.

 

There is no 'duty' when the unit is unladen and no dispatch. Just because someone says you have to move off our property is not doing work or duty for them.

 

I don't know if you are just trolling by making absurd statements or if you really believe that crap....

 

Although it's not specified in the guidance I can tell you that from personal conversations with law enforcement.
That.
1( dot / fmcsa considers a tractor pulling a trailer laden with the trailer.
2( leaving the customer after being unloaded is a continuation of that trip.
3( spoke to a few scalemasters that have said if you get pulled in with a trailer and you trying to claim PC your getting cited because of # 1.
I wouldn't go on what a specific company is letting you get away with in reguards to using PC. Cya baby.
Don't shoot the messenger just telling ya what was said to me.