question about HOS and reset.

To try to clarify for any confused, you can not drive after you combine driving and on duty hours total 70 hrs with in an 8 day period, until you have either taken a 34hr restart, OR recaptured enough hours to drop you below 70 and then you will only be allowed to drive up to the 70 limit is again reached.

 

I would venture to say that if you were in a terminal and the boss wanted to force you exceed your 14 or 70 or both by switching in the yard he could probably get away with it as long as you didn't exit company property .

That should fire up the conversation again.

 

His original quote was "If you hit 70 you have to take a restart". He was wrong on both points. 1) You can work past 70 hours. 2)You do not HAVE to take a restart, you can work off recap if you have available hours coming back the next day.

 

I would say 'fine' and log it all line 4. When he does send me home, say past my 70 in that scenario, he cannot call me back to driving til I have available hours which might be a couple days off.

 

Absolutely correct.

 

My company's paper logs have a recap on the side and small print that says something like "if your hours add up to more than 70 you are in violation, detail your reason for violations in the comments section". I had one day 4.5 hours left on the 70 or something like that. .25 hour pretrip drove 2 hours then .25 hours fuel then drove 2 more hours then .25 hours drop trailer/postrip. Company was freaking out that I went over 70 hours lol, I told them there was no violation.

I have also started my day at 2345 for 15 minutes when I had zero hours on my 70 but was picking up legal time at the stroke of midnite
and again they freak out lol, they don't understand the rob peter to pay paul trick I guess.

 

all is correct but after 8 I though you had to reset......I haven't read all the post..lol, just drove from Cleveland to Charlotte and working 13 out of 14 days/nights have kicked my but esp. when the last few were 14 hour days. But on the upside I am off until Tuesday.

 

34 hour reset is not mandatory. 34 hour reset is voluntary. An easy way to do the math:
70 hours allowed in 8 days.

so work/drive combo 10 hours a day for 7 days straight. On 8th day you have no legal hours to drive. So you take 24 hours off and pick up 10 hours a day legally for the next 7 days.

 

Resets are OPTIONAL, never required by law. Not that many years ago, there was no such thing as a reset. It was all recap.