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Discussion in 'Ask An Owner Operator' started by Beaver9, Feb 11, 2022.

  1. Beaver9

    Beaver9 Heavy Load Member

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    I might have to leave all my regular customers for the rates off the boards. ####, the loyalty doesn't pay me well. I stick with the same loads/customers with whom I built nice relationships. The rates have been up for some time now, and I don't have any advantage now, and things don't look like will be changing soon. The only positives I have is knowing when I will be paid and when I'm going to run. And a bit of peace of mind.
    But with costs I break even without taking the new rates to my advantage.
     
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  3. lester

    lester Midwest's #1 Feed Hauler

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    Tell them flat out, up your rates to be competitive or you are leaving. Leave no doubt and be ready to walk. No point in turning wheels to breakeven.

    Show them comparable loads and rates and what they will have to pay someone else if you leave
     
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  4. Chieftains

    Chieftains Medium Load Member

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    If your a 1 man op. Dedicated can suck for the most part. Their are some good contracts. But for consistency they tend to pay less than load boards. Only advantage is when market crashes you still get that same rate unless they change up on you.
     
  5. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

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    Sometimes you have to take the good with the bad. The grass always looks greener on the other side. I'm with you though. Just did the same thing with my regular run. He booked me, then moved to the next day for three consecutive times only to cancel on the following attempt. I lost big time.

    I've been running the board exclusively since. The rates are good so I'm doing better than trying to service him while simultaneously trying to fill in the blanks with spot freight. Of course, I now have to deal with sifting through tons of deadbeat bottom feeders to get to the good stuff but it's a small price to pay.
     
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  6. Judge

    Judge Road Train Member

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    I’d do like @lester said, ask for comparable rates, as fuel has gone sky high, you can’t haul for same rate even 6 months ago, fuel is over $4/gallon in West Memphis, where it was 3.30ish.
    Just remember on load boards you gotta be careful or you’ll be...
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  7. God prefers Diesels

    God prefers Diesels Road Train Member

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    When rates drop, will he maintain your current rate, or drop you in a heartbeat for someone that will pull for a nickel cheaper?

    I almost got dedicated once. He told me how much it cost him. I didn't tell him what I booked it for. I offered a rate that met in the middle. He saves money, I make even more money, and we cut out the broker. Nope, he wanted to pay LESS than what I booked it for in the first place.

    There's no relationship if there isn't back scratching on both sides.
     
  8. goga

    goga Heavy Load Member

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    they will have to pay someone else if you leave - :cool:
     
  9. ProfessionalNoticer

    ProfessionalNoticer Road Train Member

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    Spot on. They'll drop the carrier at the worst time. Meanwhile, the carrier lost so much money in the long run instead of stockpiling the revenue while the times are good to carry him through the slow cycles. The Shipper just goes on without missing a beat while the carrier struggles.
     
  10. RedForeman

    RedForeman Momentum Conservationist

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    I just tell them my chauffeur's been needing a raise, can you help me out? They usually come up a good bit, since nobody should have to drive their own Bentley.
     
  11. TallJoe

    TallJoe Road Train Member

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    It very much depends on how much lower the loyalty rates are from the spot market and is it not too late already? And whether or not, if you leave now, you'll be welcomed later.

    Spot market has been hot for a while: 20 months. Long enough to wonder about how much longer it will stay like that before it crushes.
    When it does, the question will be about how long before it recovers again and to what level.
     
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