RE: helping the son thread

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by 201, Jan 13, 2025.

  1. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    I certainly agree that someone, somewhere is advertising trucking as the solution to TOO MANY problems, like terrible driving record, no job history, unable to find work with a felony conviction or two. One of the very first things my CDL school asked me was about all of those items. I trusted my CDL school because I new 2 people well who had used that school. One to satisfy something the state/Feds required when experienced drivers were grandfathered into the CDL system. Another person had completed the school and gotten hired immediately after graduating. In my state, and maybe trade schools in the country, someone keeps track of student graduation rates and job placement rates. That wasn't always a requirement. It's likely multiple things are going on to cause the same sort of 1st post to keep showing up. I suspect there is a lot more "free money" partly than in the past, nobody is very careful spending someone else's money. And CDL schools, or someone getting a fee for each new student, is advertising these schools in new places like outside courtrooms, homeless shelters, liquor stores, etc.
    Here's the dirty secret to life, and it applies to most of life not just CDL school, if you won't look to protect yourself there are plenty of people that will take advantage of you. Those taking advantage should not take advantage but they do, and hardly anyone will dispute they've seen businesses take advantage of people, so there is no excuse to not ask important questions and get solid answers before you throw away your money or squander a grant or voucher of someone else's money doing something with little chance of success. If you won't protect yourself, blaming others will only go so far. I have NO sympathy for people that won't look out for themselves. "A fool and his money are soon parted" and "a fool was lucky to have the money to give away in the first place" come to mind.
    A big difference between children and adults is that most adults in the past knew/were taught they have a duty to check things out before doing them. I think as more and more children grow up with fewer responsible adults around them for maybe their whole lives the numbers of reckless decisions attached to many people is increasing fast. Nobody's job is to protect you from making bad decisions if you are over 18. That's your job and if you didn't learn it you are just fresh meat thrown into the lion's cage. When that person get's "eaten by the lion" it wasn't a failure of The System, it was usually the consumer being reckless, the scammer being greedy, and a business making money in the process. Nobody is coming to save you. The govt isn't your mom or dad.
     
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  3. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Not to downplay your experience, but I would just add that there are some of us who chose to do this because we wanted to and enjoy working independently. That was my primary motivation at least.
     
  4. broke down plumber

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    Con-Struction will hire anyone that WILLING to WORK .
     
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  5. bryan21384

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    This an interesting read. I can admire someone when they admit when they fall short. So many folks, whether on here, or out in the real world are addicted to condemnation of people's poor choices. OK. People screw up. I just don't see how constant condemning of one's choices leads to solutions. Solutions and all of truckers helping each other think is whats so valuable about this site, at least in my view. It's cool to make a thread about your wrongdoing, but additionally, the right thing is really to tag the poster of the other thread and apologize to him directly and offer constructive solutions to his problem.
     
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  6. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    Perhaps you misunderstood, I wanted to drive a truck, I couldn't believe I got paid to do that. It wasn't until responsibilities kicked in, and I literally HAD to do it. That's when I lost it.
    It should be noted, companies are beginning to look at non-violent felonies, gambling, driving, property crimes, or the biggie, drugs, that I suspect here, but anything involving harm to another person is still not tolerated.
     
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  7. drivingmissdaisy

    drivingmissdaisy Road Train Member

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    So where is this thread?
     
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  8. bryan21384

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  9. ElmerFudpucker

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    I don’t think the school has a responsibility. They fulfilled their obligation. They got him a cdl. It’s not the schools responsibility to get him hired. Unless they promised job placement.
     
  10. tscottme

    tscottme Road Train Member

    Trade schools, like CDL schools, have to report their job placement rate to AT LEAST the feds, if not state and Feds. If I had to place a bet I would guess the student, future student, etc never once asked about the job placement rate. Maybe they never brought up the mark in their past that the rest of us this is likely to hold him back from getting hired. Just as there are Karens in the world who expected to be treated as a member of the board of directors at every business she walks into, there are mullions of other people that do not ask te right questions before jumping in with both feet. What's more popular in media, any media, the shows telling you how not to be ripped off or the shows keeping you updated on celebrity gossip? Let the buyer beware, or not. Make wise choices. It costs nothing to ask before you decide "what questions should I ask about X?" How come those posts don't outnumber the "I just signed a year contract with Cannibal Express and leave for orientation in an hour, are they a good company?"
     
  11. 201

    201 Road Train Member

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    Bingo. Let me just say too, in case others are facing the same dilemma, schools do an adequate job, heaven knows we need the drivers, but they don't tell the whole story. If they did, they'd be out of business in short order. Like said^^^, these schools are HOPING they don't ask questions, the students are vulnerable, and need a job PRONTO. This person could have saved the money, if they just would have asked, "do companies hire ex-felons?" Many times no, and the expected salary is another gray area. You may make what they told you, but generally not. The schools aren't going to shoot themselves in the foot, and go by the "buyer beware" thing. We have to remember, for many it's the last game in town, and it's worth a shot, blissfully unaware of what really lies ahead. Well, here you go.
     
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