Well I have been hearing that USA truck was going away from APU and today I seem confirmation for myself. There are 4 brand new trucks on the TBA row at Van Buren that have no APU. They have the new freightliner optimized idle system. Seems as though unless you are assigned one you will never know. They still have exhaust tube for espar heater but that's it. Plus is probably plenty of storage room now under bunk.
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Discussion in 'USA Truck' started by RetiredSarge, Jan 10, 2013.
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"Oh No". I drove one of those for Schneider. All it has is a bunk heater operated by your cabin batteries. After about 4or 5 hours it dies. Their are no inverters to power anything a driver might have. Only Cigarette lighter fixtures. Schneider was trying out some units with A/C as well. The problem is they don't last long. You have to start the truck to charge the batteries. Another problem is truck will only idle 4 to 5 minutes. That won't change. Drivers getting screwed again.
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I dont think my espar heater ran off batteries. My truck had no problem starting after a 34
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If I leave my truck more than 18 hours without cranking it with everything off, it'll be very slow to start. Almost to the point where it won't start.
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I believe it's freightliner's version of icon idle from the old trucks is what I was told. Not sure about that though
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I can remember this system in the Detroit engine equipped freightliner tractors as far back as 1996. It saddens me to hear about this, but honestly I was expecting it. I heard it right from Jim Shaffer's mouth back in the early summer of 2011 the APU's was costing the company major bucks. Most of the newer Freightliners have the DPF APU's and those things are a royal pain in the butt when they are out of warranty. Unfortunately it's all about the money and right now the company don't have it to spend.
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isnt the optimized idiling where the truck can only be idled when the outside temperature reaches certain set points? I believe Heartland Express has the same set up on their trucks
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No, the optimized idle has been around a long time. My old flat top with USA had it. You set the thermostat in your bunk. The engine starts automatically when it gets to warm or cool in cabin.
I can't see them going back to this. It still uses to much fuel, and it's illegal to idle all over the place. They are probably going to go with the same set up Schneider has. Bunk heaters, with no inverters or power source other than cigarrete lighter outlets. Schneider just started putting sensors on their truck so they won't idle between certain temps. To be honest. I'm beginning to see the only way to have a climate controlled truck is to team. it's getting to bad. I'll go work at a convenience store before I will freeze or sweat while living in a truck.bigjoel Thanks this. -
I never had Opti-idle, but the thing sets parameters for coolant temperature and battery voltage as well cab temperature according to the manual for a 2001 that had it and also had it disabled because someone installed Rigmasters on 5 of them purchased used. Those were just a waste, too unreliable and too expensive for parts to keep running
It should be better than nothing, and I don't know about the no idle states, but as long as it doesn't run all the time it would be better than having to start it and shut it off manually. Running for hours on end draws more attention than starting and stopping
The Cascadia stays more comfortable than the older FLs I have driven, but it still gets cold with the engine off in the winter.
My company leases/rents and the lease company won't invest in even the battery ones unless they get more for the truck per unit of time, I haven't seen an APU on any of their new trucks.
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