Said i'd never do this......

Discussion in 'Swift' started by DickJones, Dec 20, 2010.

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  1. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    Absolutely right...once assigned to the truck, that box is the students responsibility for every transmission...the Mentor should only "supervise" it's use by the student not continually "show" the student how to do it.
     
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  3. Injun

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    You might want to double check, but one of my many excuses for not training is I have a dog and I'm not willing to kick him off the truck. I believe mentors are not allowed to have dogs, even if they are leasing the trucks.

    Had a friend a couple of years ago given the ultimatum. Dog or student, not both. Wisely, he kept the dog.

    And, again, I will not comment on the acidic remarks you have previously made regarding mentoring. Although it does seem that whenever you have nasty things to say about this thing or that you end up doing the very thing you previously appeared to so vehemently condemn.

    Good luck with it. Don't turn out steering wheel holders, don't be a richard-head and don't lose your arse in this new endeavor.
     
  4. ChromeDome

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    Actually it can be more of a pain to try and say the same thing 4 ways to try and get it across, than it is to not say anything, let them do it slightly wrong, and then work them past it.

    I was a ski instructor for quite a few years. Many times in teaching skiing you are teaching by what the student feels. Letting them feel the difference between several different moves would allow them to feel why you wanted them to do it your way.

    When teaching a driver it can be the same.
    Within reason of course. We cannot bypass safety to get the training done. But many of the harder things for students to get they can learn better when they have missed up in a minor way.
    At the point that they know they messed up they will be more open to listening.
    This is especially important in backing.
    Let them get off angle some. Let them see how hard it is to fix it after they are off.
    Then have them set back up correctly and see the difference.
    This will teach the "super trucker" students quickly that you have something to teach them.

    I am totally against mentor's/ trainers that do not train though. They should all be shot. They are a danger to the motoring public.
    They should set up the pay for trainers so that they will only get paid for training that trainee if the trainee says they are actually teaching them, in weekly updates.
    If not the trainer should not be getting any pay for the trainee being on the truck.

    This would be hard in the situation where the trainee cannot drive. And would have to be fixed by the trainers weekly updates. If the trainer is showing that the student is not learning the information it will have to be looked at as well. I do not believe in a mileage pay for training though. It should be a set amount of money per day or week.
    Not mileage based. So the trainer will not have anything to gain from the extra miles. This would help to make sure that they are not just running the student as an extra book.
     
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  5. Buckeye 'bedder

    Buckeye 'bedder Road Train Member

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    But...but.....you were gonna put up a hammock, and let us trainee's sleep on the lower bunk...and.....and....we would have had marshmallow (not weinie) roasts and ...sing Kumbaya...and you would tell Indian folklore bedtime stories........and....and....everything!! aaawwwwwwwwwwwwww....... DRATS!!:biggrin_2553:
     
  6. scottied67

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    Where's the punchline? Oh this is a serious for real post? Good luck DickJones. Was that you in Edwardsville Terminal yesterday?
     
  7. DickJones

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    it sure was..........NOT. Doubt you'd even walk over to say 'hi' anyway. but i'd sure be able to spot you from the back of the yard, wearing nothing that you didn't buy out of the gift shop. i bet you even have the swift belt and belt buckle and shoe laces. LOL
     
  8. otherhalftw

    otherhalftw R.I.P.

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    I've got 2 belt buckles....why don't they give a belt with the buckle? I guess we could use them as ear rings or something!
     
  9. Injun

    Injun Road Train Member

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    I don't sing Kumbaya. And only tell stories when they're relevant to something currently going on. It's how we can learn from the past. What you call "lore" we call history.

    And the mentoring program doesn't need me. They have Mr. Jones now.

    But I am still thinking about that hammock...
     
  10. TruckrsWife

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    I shudder to think what those ears would look like if they were used for earrings. Ubangis come to mind.
     
  11. Buckeye 'bedder

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    Ooooooooooo....me want pretty "sparkley" thing.........OOOOooooooo...........
     
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