Sammons Trucking Lease purchase????

I filed an application with Sammons a couple days ago and just got off the phone with "Becky"...Her message to me was a denial on the basis of claiming I have had 10 jobs since 2011. Exerpt from my work history:

8/2013 - Present - Student @ University of Arkansas
7/2013 - 08/2013 - Dartco Transportation, Sellersburg, IN
10/2012 - 07/2012 - TLC, INC (Daryl Thomason) Chesterson, IN (Quit and took a month off)
05/2012-09/2012 - TLC, INC (Daryl Thomason) Chesterton, IN.
10/2011-04/2012 - Johnson Controls, Horatio, Arkansas
07/2008-09/2011 - Caldwell Freight - Lenoir, NC. (They closed their doors)

How they come up with 10 I have no idea. Beware of these people because apparently they cannot count to 20 without taking their shoes off. Thank you for the denial and enlightenment.

Basically they are counting companies which I applied to, but later chose not to go to work for as a free citizen to handle my own business. Apparently Sammons counts against you for this...Actually counting undesirable companies that you chose NOT to work for. Apparently Sammons is under the impression that if a citizen applies for a job that they are therefore OBLIGATED to take it even after learning it would be a BAD DEAL. Know this before you consider heading up to Missoula.

 

You should check your DAC report to see if some of the companies that you applied to and did not work for dinged your record. How else would Sammons have know about them?

You can get a copy of your DAC report from http://hireright.com/Consumers-Applicants.aspx and have any issues on your DAC cleaned up before applying elsewhere. You can dispute anything on it that you feel is inaccurate at https://ows01.hireright.com/consumer_request/0.do;jsessionid=A97B8CD8B8214F72B58EDA3FE08A917C?event=DEFAULT&create=true& .


Even going by just what you posted and acknowledge here they would likely not have taken you. It looks like you are a job hopper as the longest you worked for anyone was 10 months. Having not driven in the last 10 months alone would have probably prevented them from leasing you on. Most companies would make you take a refresher course to even hire you as a company driver with that much time since your last driving job.

 

If you knew anything about Thomason you'd know why I took that month off. Both times the company failed to correct major CSA repair issues on their equipment or were facilitating a slip seat amounting to the same that would endanger my license. I'm talking about tractors with no windshield defrosters, oil leaks, bad tires, Rotten and leaking air bags, brakes worn out of limits and cracked frame rails on trailers.

Same story with Dartco. Only with Dartco I had far less patience with them. That tractor had 2 bad batteries literally cooking the wall sides and would not hold a charge when issued, had to be jump started to get it off the yard and had to be jumped whenever it was shut off. The engine was throwing codes, was told they would get it in as soon as possible. 10 days later nothing had been done. Only when I told them they were getting their equipment back did a load to Indianapolis come up immediately. Imagine that.

Johnson Controls was something to get by until I could find something that at least looked decent back in a seat.

I've been doing this legally since 1992 and off the books I started jockeying my first bobtails in 1978 with a father that was in the business since 1971. When some snot nosed recruiter calls to say, "we don't want you" it's obvious their decision is already made and from the other side of the equation I don't have to beg anyone for a job. They didn't ask for details before making their decision. Didn't give a chyt what the details were, and therefore nor should I. Not the sort of people I care to deal with anyway by showing their hand in the manner that they did. As I said in another post, thank you for the denial and more to the point, enlightenment.

A lot of companies check DAC these days. That is a known and a given. On Sammons application they specifically ask for not only previous employers but also anyone you have applied to. In all honesty they were provided all information requested. Yes, they could have seen the DAC entries from companies I applied to but refused to lease purchase from (CRST, NATIONAL & ANDERSON) but since this information was already asked for it was already right there on the application. Specific dates were probably off, but the information was there.

Your 10 month reference is also inaccurate. Over 3 years with Caldwell.

Beyond all of the above, as a result of my original post on this board I have had an individual reach out to me privately whom I will not identify (It was a private message and therefore will remain so) but ran in some of the same small fleets as I have. He left said fleet to do business with Sammons. We knew and know each other. He outlined the garbage Sammons pulled on him. I am aware that companies troll these boards to boost themselves and to give other companies black eyes and/or attempt to thwart what a driver has to say. But coming from a guy that I already know and ran in the same fleets with; I'll take his word over any pixelated entity trolling the net.

I have no doubt that National Carriers DAC'd me...In fact after I got off the phone with Jeff G. (Safety Director of Thomason) while still in National's Orientation room in Dallas to check and see if I could come back the National Rep escorted me to National's Director of Operations who threatened to DAC me if I followed through and ended my interest with National Carriers. Although enraged at this point I kept my composure and told him, "You have a nice day." And I walked out. Never opened a hood for them, and never drove for them. If they are going to threaten to DAC you before you are even working for them just think what it would be like trying to work for them. Not only no, but hell no. After the ordeal with Anderson trying to leave me stranded up in St. Cloud, MN and National being in Dallas and my being 3 hours out of Dallas I obviously had my own transportation. Paid my own dime back on both.

I didn't notice that typo I posted until now. Someone willing to actively attempt to tear apart a post like that would not surprise me if you are one of those people described above.

And beyond that to assume just because I have not worked for someone else as a hired driver since last August is also presumptuous. I have my own truck. I merely did not offer to lease it to Sammons because it does not fall in their 10 year requirement. The more I look at your post, the more I realize This isn't worth any more of my time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUceOqrO0pM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYKKTK6UdLQ

 

Typo - 10/2012 - 07/2013 - TLC, INC (Daryl Thomason) Chesterson, IN (Quit and took a month off)

 

I started to apply to Sammons a couple of years ago. I can't remember for sure, but I believe I dealt with Becky. She was so uninformative, unhelpful and borderline condescending that I dropped them from my list. I ended up leased to a far better company where I am still working happily. I'm sure you will end up in a better situation too.

It's too bad that they've got some bad apples in the corporate barrel. Sammons has been a well respected co. since I started back in the 70's.

 

Do it now!

Just as an FYI Sammons Trucking is owned by UTI World Wide. It is not the quaint family owned trucking company from days gone past. Not to say that it is a bad thing. More logistics is always a winner in the transportation industry Just saying.......

UTi Worldwide has no planes or ships of its own, but it moves freight around the world. The company is a leading provider of air and ocean freight forwarding services. As a freight forwarder, UTi Worldwide buys capacity from air and ocean carriers and resells it to customers. In addition the company offers contract logistics, customs brokerage, and warehousing and distribution services. It maintains facilities in some 60 countries and operates through agents in another 80 countries. UTi Worldwide is domiciled in the British Virgin Islands but run from a network of offices located in different spots around the globe with the main office in Long Beach, California.

 

Is this about the same deal these days? Anything change? And what are they offering for trucks? Same 660's?

 

These numbers make no sense! How do they subtract the fuel surcharge. The truck should get that. Moreover, they rent the #### trailer to the driver! What a #### rip off. Sounds like just another scam to nickel and dime drivers to death.

 

They do pass on 100% FSC to the truck. http://www.sammonstrucking.com/lease_purchase.aspx

I have yet to hear anyone who has actually worked for Sammons say anything but good things about them. All the negative posts I have seen are from people that Sammons would not accept and those who just like to pee in someone else's Cheerios.

They will rent you a trailer if you do not have one, its not a requirement to rent one from them. Why would any company provide you with a free trailer?

Does Landstar provide you with a free trailer? Nope, they change you 9% for using their Vans or you buy or rent your own flatbed.
Does Mercer? Nope, not them ether. You ether buy your own or rent one from somewhere.
Your paying for a trailer, yours or the companies no matter who you lease on with.

 

I also read postings from sammonsrecruiter indicatieng that the lease purchase drivers take home around $2400 per month! That is welfare money!!

I work as a company driver for a flatbed company and make $1200 per week!

These numbers make no sense that sammons puts up.