Schneider new driver pay increase amount

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  1. Knucklehead

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    IKR, nails in the feet are an Easter thing, huh?
     
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  3. Opus

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    You don't necessarily have to do a 34. You can work off of your roll over hours. I did it a bunch. In all the time I drove, I did a 34 once.
     
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  4. gentleroger

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    The greatest debate in truck driving - max your clocks or conserve and run recaps?

    For the longest time, I advocated running recaps. Spending 34 hours at a random truck stop is a version of hell.

    Then came elds and the math changed. For two years I ran an aobr and and eld side by side. Most weeks there was a three hour difference in my 70 hour clock between the two. Regulatory set me a challenge - max the difference. Logging the minimum time on both I managed an 8 hour difference. It's the little things like going off duty while waiting to back into a spot - on an aobr you could stay off duty as you set up and backed in as well. The eld will record that time. Or pulling out from a dock and around the building to get paperwork - yeah, it's three minutes, but it all adds up. In my opinion, running recaps doesn't offer any advantages over resetting - it all comes down to the company/lanes your running.

    For Schneider, there are two big factors that make resetting more attractive.

    The first is ETAi. When the 70 drops below the 14, etai starts matching the 14 to the 70. Say at the start of your day you have 8 hours on your 70 - etai will say you have 8 on the 11, 8 on the 14, and 8 on the 70 and plan you accordingly. Or it will build a 34 into your load. You end up fighting with the computer.

    Secondly is the 'new' pay package. Schneider drivers get their base pay per mile and $10 per hour for all on duty time. No more short haul pay, no detention, no stop off - nothing, just the on duty pay. Under the old pay structure, if you spent 4 hours in the dock, you'd have gotten $30 in detention pay. Now you have a choice - stay off duty and conserve your 70, or stay on duty and make $40. Darned if you do and darned if you don't. Stay on duty and you might lose out on miles, stay off duty and you might leave money on the table.

    I was always in every weekend to swap trainees, but usually it was in Saturday morning and back out Sunday fro 3-5 weeks before taking a week off. Once we switched to ELDs, I switched to taking a 34 every weekend. Paychecks were the same either way, it just made things simpler. Usually had 8-10 hours left on my 70 getting home Friday night. When the pay structure changed, I would log conservatively until I had enough time to get back home, then it was on duty from pretrip to post trip.
     
  5. Powder Joints

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    Go to Ashleys, your pay will increase.
     
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  6. Opus

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    My deal was that I never wanted to stay in a truckstop for a day and a half.
    If I only had 3 hours to run, I'd run it. Not for the money necessarily, but to be doing something.
    I guess everyone is different. I was never chasing dollars. I figured the dollars would come. But I just wanted to do something.
     
  7. Powder Joints

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    I only take my 34 when Im Since I run Western Region I normally get by the house about every 7 to 10 days.
     
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  8. Cherokee65

    Cherokee65 Medium Load Member

    I’m not handling furniture. I’d rather just do drop and hooks or live unloads. I’m too old to mess with unloading a trailer by hand in the dead of winter or the heat of the summer. Nope, young guys can have all of that!
     
  9. gentleroger

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    Assuming the same amount of time away from home, given a choice between making $2,000 a week with taking a restart or $1,800 running recaps which would you choose?

    My rough rule of thumb was 4 hours - if I had 4 to run, I'd run. Less than that I'd restart. But I also cheated my logs - there were a lot of times that I'd get to a place like the J in Walton, KY where it would take me an hour to get parked and I would log 15 minutes at the most. Leaving, I'd stay off duty as I did my pretrip and pulled out, then go back and edit in a pretrip after the fact - saved 15-30 minutes. Getting through Verso Paper for a d/h took 1 hour minimum (check in with guard, check in with shipping, back into a dock to get leak tested, move to drop lot, move to loaded lot, scale, adjust, rescale, check out with guard), I'd log 30 minutes on duty and the rest off duty.

    But I've always been chasing dollars. Until 2019, running recaps was both more pleasurable AND more profitable. Even with cheating the logs, I ran shorter days. It was really the pay structure change that killed running recaps. I was in Cedar Rapids waiting on my go home load and the APM asked my to do some load and stages - scrap loads staged at the drop lot to International Paper, loaded trailers back to the lot. 6 loads, 3 hours total, 4 hours logged, $185 earned. Under the new pay structure the same work would pay out less than $75. Under the old pay structure, I never had a problem with getting stuck in a dock because detention pay would kick in and I could save my 70. Now if Dollar General takes 8 hours to unload, you get paid $0 if you log off duty, then get to go to the truck stop for a 10. It's better to burn the 70 and get paid $80. Now it doesn't pay to show short hours and get screwed with the scraps.
     
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  10. Speed_Drums

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    The PTP (Point-to-Point) division is OTR Regional 100% no touch loads.
    Careers - Ashley Distribution Services
     
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    Ashley told me I would not be unloading or loading, the stores, and shippers take care of that, I don't think the semi's deliver to homes.
     
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