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So, your friend didn't get a hair test, but I did.

Will the next guy or gal? I dont know...

Neither can they.

 

The typical test involves hair strands 3-4 inches long. Just enough to check 6 months.

No one is going to do a full strand test of someone that has hair past their collars.

But I will say this. You better be able to produce enough hair for the test. Otherwise most companies will send you packing.

Crew cut, bald head, with shaven body are immediate red flags. Even if they manage to get enough hair, you’re name is going to magically appear on several random test for the next year or two.

Just an FYI

 

That's what that poster isn't getting. They DO perform hair tests, random or mandatory for new employees doesnt matter. They still do them.

What's more concerning is the integrity of that poster. Worried about a hair test, then claims to walk into labs and lie about being an employer to get some really BS information. Most of the info he said he got is inaccurate.

Anyone will argue anything based on anecdotal evidence. Geeze louise. Lol.

 

Should I add Tide Laundry Soap to the list of red flags?

Im not sure you can do hair with tide liquid HE quality laundry soap for clothing.

 

Labs don't tell me *&# But what I DO get is the billing post test from my pain clinic. My urine test runs 800 dollars per billed. They check formally for EVERYTHING possible, and focus on my liver (Ancentomin poisoning among other things) Heart enzymes and a host of other things that are early indicators of a problem before it really gets to be a problem with me. We are going to test for cancer in a leg tomorrow first with a scan and then draw blood and run a panel associated with a particular sarcoma. That's going to be thousands of dollars, around 14000 for MRI and about 3000 for the blood etc. Its really important. They will also drug test me and check my particular levels to ensure that I am complying with drug doseage and also to establish bigger medicine by IV when I go into the hospital.

But generally LABS do not tell me anything, the Pain Clinic's Urine tester who I have been with for 10 years at one place has been educational over the years when she puts my sample and it's cup after I sign the custody chain to her into a courier bag with about 200 other samples collected that day. It goes to Dallas from Little Rock for Lab testing. There is a lab down that way that tests my urine, blood etc in the past. Both for drug enforcement and also for medical problems in the ER.

My current clinic tests me pretty fast and then sends off the remaining to another lab. I don't know anything about those tests other than the fact that it costs 800 flat in billing to medicare and they check everything out of that cup.

There is for my purpose one test that matters, when they stick a strip in to the liquid sample, it has to come up to a control line with a marker indicating the correct dose of narcotics in my system. Then they count the pills against refill date and doses to be sure I am not selling, diverting and so on. (Which are felonies)

I have been drug tested by the trucking industry pretty much to where I do not worry about it. HOWEVER.

When I had my class A, I experiemented 4 times with three seperate drugs of the illegal kind at 21. Pot is not my flavor and the other two I'll just leave them aside. One is LSD which was a good for me. But not something I want to do too much of because it is a acid and can hurt the brain physically. I drove home one time on that, and all I remember is that double yellow line all the way up. (Which is really really really shamefully STUPID of me I had a class A at that time I don't think there was much of or beginning to be a drug interdiction in addition to drinking for drivers.

I had a choice to make. Stop seeing my friends who were enabling my drug experimentation or stop trucking. This was years before the new 1991 CDL laws which seriously and very quickly boosted testing. Then I had to stop drinking as well.

All in all these were the correct decisions to make. Stopped and stopped before it really got bad. One of my codrivers did not stop in one company his drinking at 22 he took out a family with a big truck. The state took away his ability to drive for life and the boss man put him behind a desk, a telephone and the week's loads to deal with brokers and anyone else to call to earn his keep. He is probably still there to this day if his daddy has died by now (*Which I imagine so, he was a great Trucker Daddy teaching me many things.)

But, for those people who do not engage in drinking or drugging around trucking... all of these tests should have no fear. Even those who are medicated after a tooth pull for a week or whatever also should not have any fear as long they submit to the MRO the documented letter from the prescribing dentist etc exactly what they were given, how long and when it will stop or when stopped. Doses etc. So you can come up hot for a legal prescription and keep on trucking. MRO will take care of it.

If you live in a legal pot state for rec use, then you have every right o be afraid of trucking's tests by hair or urine or whatever else. IF you are a pot user.

This should some how be a commandment issued by God to every student on the first day of trucking school. But for some stupid reason, people think it's perfectly fine to pot and truck.

I don't think so.

 

I'm also curious why those labs never told him the rate of false positives. It's well documented that certain hair types will retain particles from the environment. Live with a pot smoker but you dont smoke? You'll pass a urine test 10 times over, but fail a follicle test.

Laundry soap, hair cleansers, vinegar, etc. have all been shown to not work. One may squeak by after a few months of consumption if they consecutively bleach and dye their hair so many times it strips the follicles. Of course, good luck with the results of that when your hair breaks everytime you touch it lol.

 

I agree with all of your post but this got me. I am so sorry to hear you are dealing with all of this. I know I'd be scared ####less if I had to run a panel on any sarcoma. I truly hope that it is negative, as well as the radiology. Some conditions require pain management for a certain amount of time, some are permanent, I'm not sure which case is yours but I do hope they do not find anything else that will exacerbate your issues now. My heart goes out to you.

 

I appreciate the encouragement. How do I put this? My life is numbered according to God. He knows the number of my days and I use each one I am given as best as I can. IF the results are positive for a particular one we are hunting (It's lethal, no cure you can try surgery up to 5cm and chemo with radiation.) however Ive already survived cancer with spouse back in 2006, she has gotten 14 years out of stage three breast cancer. Her radiation cost about 50,000 dollars in two months flat and the radiation burns along with sleeping with her caused me to go blind in one eye closest to that area. I had surgery to replace the lens which was about another 20,000 all done with new glasses in 2009.

Anyway, there is birth, life, learning and living as well as loving and everything else. If the news is bad, I have a rider with insurance to inform them and inform hospice. I'll be gone within 6 months without trouble. And the money will take care of my messes according to the will, living directives, cremation and so on so forth all of that has been arranged and updated for years.

IF there is no cancer then we proceed with the joint replacement surgery among a few other procedures while I am on the table to tie up a few loose ends and damage from trucking. Strictly to improve my quality of life. I'll be around a while longer. But I wont be looking to live to 90. No way. I don't want that. But I am not suicidal either. When it's time it's time. But in the mean time I am focused bigly on fixing some body parts, replacing two others with new parts and getting past winter to come. I have a couple of more surgeries with the exspouse going blind within 6 months and will be caring for her until she has healed from that surgery next year on both eyes among other things.

I am literally free of trouble in life. Frankly the physical broken bones pain showed me that it really hurts but it is not going to kill me to hurt a little longer until surgery, we have a wheel chair, walker and cane all of which follows me to the doctor tomorrow. I currently cannot walk but that's temporary. It's literally not a problem. We finished chores, dinner and a few errands and so on we had a good day today.

Tomorrow will be a new day and the doctor will get involved, we look forward to that. People might feel bad thinking somehow I am in a world of pain and crying to all the hills in my woe and sorrow etc. That is not the case. I am feeling good morale, happy and relatively pleased that today was a good day, all of the necessary goals for today was completed. All I need to do is clean up and get to bed for rest until sunrise tomorrow. I know there is a storm coming and I will be driving us to and from the doctor tomorrow. Probably be admitted to the hospital prior.

Whatever happens will happen. IF you are a sailing ship at sea and the waters are rough with your vessal full and by into the edge of the wind on course for tomorrow with everything in order and not a mess you have nothing to worry about.

I try to show by example that no matter how bad things get, I intend to continue on with each day in life helping my ex, myself and others where possible. I don't go around publicly doing that. But I do what I have to do to fix what is fixable and leave the rest to God.

It is nice that people feel for my situation I am not used to that. However I must say that things cannot be bettter going into thanksgiving and the end of the year. Whatever happens good or bad. It's part of life. There is nothing that bothers me about living or dying. It would be a shame if I had to go but it will be my time and not a minute before. I would like to stick around a little longer because I still have people to take care of.

THAT I think will give me life and a future more than anything like some silly old Sarcoma. It does not bother me.

 

A friend of a friend, his brothers girlfriend sisters boyfriend nephew said his trucking teacher sparked a FAT joint in the class and passed it around and then made everyone #### in a box. Nah im jk

 

These false positives is why the FMCSA ignores hair testing as of this writing. Still got a fair bit of bugs to work out. However once this gets fixed (if it ever does) the FAST act (section 5402) requires the FMCSA to change their testing rules to allow hair testing. One more thing. I have a serious doubt a carrier is paying a lab $600 a test. Last time I had a lab done back in Georgia this was for medical testing back in 2012. I only paid a bit over $40.00 for that test.