The dreaded gun question.

Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by bob marlin, Mar 14, 2016.

  1. scottied67

    scottied67 Road Train Member

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  3. Ooops

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    Not carrying is disappointing. I have carried for over 30 years and only had to pull a gun twice. Stopped a guy with a knife and stopped a guy with a bat. No shots fired.Both separate incidents years apart. Knife(attempted to rob me) and bat guy(nut job) both turned and ran. Never shoot anyone in the back. I guess non-lethal will be used with more dire circumstances as a result.
     
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    Trucks are monitored everyday at Los Alamos and have been for many years. They stopped a load of rebar coming in in and found out it was from a radioactive and the source was from an old X-ray machine dumped in Mexico. They traced it back to where they found some kids were getting sick and went ahead and decontaminated the area, so I've been told.
     
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  5. x1Heavy

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    I remember Los Alamos. There is a 10 mile pull there.

    Me personally I had no trouble. But I get watched on that pull, and do not have the frame of mind that I want to see that area again. It's a dark place. Almost like a land of the dead if you ask me. I know it's vital to the Nation and support it. But I will make sure never to be there on that hill again for some reason.
     
  6. spyder7723

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    Any place with sensitive security requirements. Nuclear power plants, some military bases, the shipyard in norfolk. Some aircraft and jet engine plants.
     
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  7. x1Heavy

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    Those.. tsk tsk tsk. mm mm mm.

    Base security will have a brick once they find out your irons. It's a flat no no.

    There is a work around. Spend 10 years as the Lawman, and you will be protected as LEOSA I think it's called. My brother as a military police securty under the old SAC has it for life, he can go to those places I cannot.
     
  8. spyder7723

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    Sorry this is wrong. It just depends on the specific location and base commander. Some allow you to check your weapon, others refuse you entry. And some will even let you carry on base with a valid CHL. As for prior law enforcement, again it depends on the location. The base commander is king and sets the law.
     
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  9. x1Heavy

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    You are correct about all of that. Spot on.

    I did not want to confuse any further than I already did painting with a general picture of Federal Installations frowning on guns due to Title 930 in particular. That is the one I run into most. I have parking spots near them such as the VA where the weapon is secure and there are alternatives to guns on me for that purpose if need be.

    Arkansas is a combat posting. Base commanders are very hard here. They do hold a air show and since 9-11 they have been on a wartime footing for that show some years. I choose to not carry at all near that one. I rather not have to deal with the Commander. He's got more important things to do than worry about little harmless me.
     
  10. spyder7723

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    Arkansas? There isn't a base there with high security. They barely qualify as training grounds with their fresh out of bootcamp privates at the check points. Want to see what real security is? Go to the nuclear sub base in Washington. Make a wrong turn in there and you get a face to face encounter with well armed fully geared seals.
     
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  11. x1Heavy

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    We have a chemical depot that removed Sarin Gas canisters a few years ago. There are approximately 500 to 1000 strength infantry combat troops in range of that base in addition to a particular radio system to all civilians in a 15 mile radius of that place. It's not a place you want to go to.

    There is a air base that in addition to training C130's since the 50's all over the world, they are also 4 wings responsible directly to the 82nd, 101st as a 9-11 call for the nation. When a certain amount of these lift planes vanish from over my head and head east they are fixing to carry People to war. The last time they did that was back in Haiti in 1993. We had a plan in place to totally take over that entire nation overnight. We would have done it too.

    There is again also further assets in Arkansas, some of which support our Nation in both Peace and War. They are protected. Just not talked about much if at all.

    If people think we are a backwards hill people snoozing under our leaky roofs that work well when the sun is out and it's not raining, that is fine. We want them to think that.

    In the cold war we have had Titan Silos, some of which are not much more than a few miles from me. A reminder of the worst nuclear accident ever in this Nation when a warhead bus with several was punched through a silo lid to a fire below and burned in Searcy causing a no-*&^% evac to a minimum of 40 miles west for everyone at least that far from there.

    Even today, we build artillery rockets for MLRS there is a place where they do that. Among other things. However, the most immediate is the support of the east coast when the New Madrid fault fails and reduces Memphis to rubble. We are building pipelines west and east in areas of our State so that the east coast will not starve or freeze come winter should something like that happen.
     
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