Why CSA 2010 and E-Logs are a good thing.

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Theophilus, Nov 6, 2011.

  1. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    What I hear you're saying. And what I see happening, IS the problem.

    Drivers that want a 9-5 job. Will become more flexible, or find another line of work.

    I see ZERO reason for every tanker within 100 mile radius of a refinery showing up within a 3 hour window, every morning.

    Market driven or not. Somebody needs to get a handle on this issue. Maybe the refineries will issue a guaranteed price for a brief period. To allow the scheduling of trucks within a workable window.

    I know a jobber here in my area, that has his trucks rolling EVERY morning at 3am, meaning they ALL hit the refinery at the same time. He's one of the spot market buyers. Our fuel is still .20-.35 a gallon higher than stations just 40 miles away, in ANY direction.

    LOGISTICS................ and someone willing to leave the house when needed. Not based on the drivers desire to be home at a certain time every day.

    I guess the bulk industry is lagging behind the times in more ways than one. Aside from the recent drive toward E-logs. The rest of the industry is moving toward TEAMS, to offset the long hours. Maybe bulk should consider this as well.
     
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    If they rule the restart has to have 2 periods between midnight and 6 a.m. there won't be so many drivers rolling at 3 a.m.
     
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    It's supposed to. See 395.16 (4) and (8.).
     
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    The reason they all show up at similar times is that loads are given to fill orders at similar times. There are NOT enough termials to fullfill all orders withing the price change time (6:00 pm). With this in mind, there is still product realease times at the pipeline termials and refinery termials.

    The fact IS there is just to few termials to get product(many trucks come from a 150 mile radius).

    Changing the market guarntee will also change profit margins for suppliers and product brokers... Which will likely be passed on to fuel buyers to already high prices... again which will be passed on to consumers from everything from T.P. to ham sandwiches.

    I see it having a huge domino effect on an already shakey economy.
     
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    07-379Pete Crusty Commando-Pete

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    You have hit the nail on the head.......The rest of these beanbags cant or dont see it.

    Follow the yellow brick........um....money trail.
     
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    PackRatTDI Licensed to Ill

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    I notice that a lot myself.
     
  7. dancnoone

    dancnoone "Village Idiot"

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    That IS going too happen. No way to avoid it.

    I don't see that rule ever getting traction. And if it does, it will be removed, very quickly. As in, the first day some dumb ### Senator doesn't get the gift he ordered his Gay lover, before 10 am.
     
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    scottied67 Road Train Member

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    If they implement this you won't see anyone doing full resets anymore unless they go on home time. They'll just be doing modified resets, sitting like 24 hours or so to pick up recap hours.

    It is legal to modify the elogs all they want just not the drive line. Once you start moving you can't put the yolk back in the eggshell.
     
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    jerrytdd Light Load Member

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    I bet you cannot name any company thats been put out of business! I don,t think your stupid enough to believe that you will get paid more, too many poor third world workers waiting for the jobs that you won,t do!
     
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    jerrytdd Light Load Member

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    You are full of it, All you have to do is run off of cash! As long as the economy is bad you are not going to see any company shut down. And the fmcsa use,s different criteria for different companys.