Zipties to lock chassis pins.

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  1. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    I remember the Z railvans- That's when Piggyback work was fun.

    Lets see......

    REAZ- Realco/transamerica pool
    REDZ-Redon pool
    KBSZ- Kankakee Beaver
    XTRZ- Xtra lease
    VTRZ- Vermont railway
    TIPZ- Tip trailer lease

    Any others? Beeen awhile Last Railvan I pulled was in like 1995

    Then everything went to clumsy COFC 53' garbage (domestic)

    Everything going overseas is stil 20's and 40's right? Like P&O, Nedlloyd, Lykes, Mitsui,Evergreen
     
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  3. JJKid

    JJKid Medium Load Member

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    https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmc...Can_Be_Found_on_an_Intermodal_Chassis_508.pdf

    see first three violations. exactly what my friends got cited fore, most notably #2. you also get slapped with an OOS on top of the violation but they lift the OOS once you ziptie it.. lol
     
  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    If zipties are supposedly required, why then are zipties not specified?
     
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  5. DsquareD

    DsquareD Road Train Member

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    Sounds like fund raising. Should be beatable in court.

    The equipment is designed to be secure without a 5 cent zip tie if properly maintained.
     
  6. RERM

    RERM Road Train Member

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    That's the rub, aint it....
     
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  7. w.h.o

    w.h.o Road Train Member

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    I had pins fails even with zip ties but it hold the pieces in place but dangling. With the vibration and spring ride, they could come undone.

    Plus how lazy can you be to not put 4 zip ties on? Takes less than a minute
     
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  8. Trubb43

    Trubb43 Light Load Member

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    I could see a regional run but crosstown work every rail wants them off before u come in so like a waste of time and I never see jb hunt guys use them never
     
  9. stayinback

    stayinback Road Train Member

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    Oh my Goodness..Doing crosstowns, Used to Love em and Hate em.

    "pick up a Realco from Conrail 47th and take it over to The Grand Trunk on 43rd" or "Pick up a Lykes COFC from the Soo Line in Bensenville and Take it over to Southern Pacific on Damen"

    Or "pickup a NYK container From the B&O on 79th and take it over to Burlington Northern House 9".
     
  10. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    That's pretty much how I'm looking at this.

    The non-presence of zipties does not an unsecured load make. The locks not being locked does.

    And if they won't stay put, then some work needs to be done to the trailer.
     
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  11. Going Long

    Going Long Light Load Member

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    If a DOT officer asks why you have zties on the chassis,you better answer correctly when up this way.
    They are a visual reminder that the pins are locked.
    They are not there to secure the can to the chassis.

    I have been asked this numerous times in the Northeast area.
    And yes all yards in my area of ops requires Zties.
     
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