E log vs paper

Have to? Says who and by when?

 

Oh, we'll adapt, I'm sure. We adapted when they opened the floodgates and allowed a gazillion of you steering-wheel holders to get CDLs, didn't we? We'll make it through this, too. We just may have to change some things. Something we've learned how to do over the years.

 

Why should he have to upgrade? He doesn't live in Commiefornia. Government is forcing a business owner to buy a product in order to stay in business to satisfy government. ObamaCare for business owners. Too much is too much kid. I don't mind e-logs because I've adapted to them. But in no way do I think they should be mandated. Especially at the cost of small business. Knight, US Express, Maverick, the ATA and a few other megas just HAD TO HAVE these and force them on the industry. They can foot the bill for what they wanted.

 

I have a friend that's works for a company out of MI that rimes with Equity Transportation Company that has elogs and let me tell ya they have not hampered there illegal habits one bit! The drivers just PC all over the place and the dispatcher's are more than happy to "edit" for them anytime. So with that said he "loves" his too.

 

Control how? I want to see an example of how elog controls the driver or the govt controls the driver.

We all know the laws, the 8 hr, 11 hr, 14 hr rules and the 10 and 34 hr break rules and to a greater extent the sleeper berth rules. Theoretically, we all should be compliant, right? So where does the control kick in? If you log legally on elogs, you are under the thumb of Big Control, but if you log legally under paper you're not? That is where the fallacy of Big Control falls apart.

Regarding Big Megas controlling their drivers. Ummm, it's their equipment, how much leeway should they grant the driver to do what he wants? The Big Megas want their trucks to roll as much as possible with the fewest out of route miles and to buy the lowest cost fuel within their network. How is that different than a non-Big Mega carrier? Owner/Operators, I could imagine, want his truck to roll, loaded, as much as possible; drives the most efficient route possible, time- and dollar-wise; and buys the lowest costing fuel. Where's the difference there?

And, I am guessing, the Owner/Operator is probably efficient with his time and doesn't lollygag too much around the truckstops. The unfortunate thing is Big Megas hire lazy people.... lot's of lazy people, and they have to have rules on their end to eke out some sort of efficiency out of those schlubs. Now imagine our Owner/Operator buys another truck and hires a guy.... is it wrong of the Owner/Operator to have minimum standards for his new hire? Is it wrong him to expect efficiency of his new hire? Or is it Control and the Owner/Operator now has become in cahoots with the govt and now is call Big Owner/Operator. Com'on, expecting a minimum standard of work efficiency is not control.

A lot of people have the misconception that when they become company drivers can do what they want willy-nilly and aren't accountable to anyone. Umm, excuse me? Unless the driver's name is on the side of the door, they have agreed to abide by the company's rules when they signed on with the carrier. If those rules include no idling, using elogs, fueling at designated fuel stops, and following routing determined by the company, or what have you so be it. But control? No.

As for Govt Control, the only time I have witnessed the govt controlling anything is local idle ordinances, parking ordinances, noise ordinances, truck routes, and specialized routing for OD runs... and of course HOS. Not exactly a lot of tying the man down going on there.

Take off the tin-foiled hat and stop listening to late night radio talk shows.

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That's the only times you've seen Gov't control? The list is just a tad longer than that. Now something major happened around the year 2008....now what was that again???

 

I hear a lot of e logs protect your CDL. That is crap. I seen a driver on E logs get shut down for 10 hours at the Ft Smith scale the other nite just like I did on paper. Only difference was I knew he didn't need to see my log book so I said don't have one. The guy on e logs never seen it coming. Guess what looks worse on points and monetary fines. No log book or fictitious logs. You guessed it fictitious.
I was also able to find a team to get me out of the scale before my 10 hours was up so I could get on with my day. Paper works for me doesn't mean it should be mandatory for everyone

 

So you ran illegal, got caught, then lied to get out of it? Wow your quite the example.

 

What about he companies on elogs that dont record driving time under 15mph or 5 mph?

Or the ones that switch to off duty or sleepr berth when they come to a traffic backup?

They are quite the example too.

 

Ran illegal and told the truth about it. Did not have a page for that day didn't ever start one hence no log book. I am an outlaw and proud of it. A liar is something I ain't. You are right I'm a #### good example of a man willing to do what he has to get the job done and excepting the consequences when caught not crying about it. I wonder if you can say the same