Congressman Brian Babin’s proposed amendment delaying the enforcement date for mandatory Electronic Logging Devices (ELDs) has been voted down.
Earlier this month, Rep. Babin tried attaching an anti-ELD amendment to an existing appropriations bill that is expected to pass. The amendment would have prevented the DOT from enforcing the ELD mandate until September 30th, 2018. Congress voted against adding the amendment to the appropriations bill in a 246-143 vote.
With the death of the amendment, truckers and the organizations that fight for them are running out of options.
The proposed amendment was Rep. Babin’s second attempt to put a hold on ELD enforcement. In July he introduced H.R. 3282, the ELD Extension Act of 2017, which would have postponed the implementation of the ELD rule for two years. That bill currently has at least 45 co-sponsors and hasn’t yet come to a vote. But it seems unlikely to pass through the House, the Senate, and the White House before the enforcement date in December – if it is even to pass at all.
While the Owner Operator Independent Driver’s Association (OOIDA) is currently still fighting hard against the ELD mandate, there is a whole lot of lobbying power on the other side trying to push it through. In late July and early August, the ATA and OOIDA penned a series of letters to the FMCSA that seemed to be directed largely at each other.
The letter from the ATA claimed among other things that the only reason to oppose mandatory ELDS is “because they intend to cheat on their hours of service” and to “evade compliance with the existing laws and regulations.”
OOIDA’s letter slammed the ATA’s claims as “wildly inappropriate and dishonest” saying the ATA was either arrogant or ignorant. In the letter, they asked the FMCSA for an implementation delay not only for drivers’ sakes, but also to give the FMCSA more time to prepare for such a huge regulatory undertaking.
Unfortunately for the anti-ELD crowd, it looks like the war might be lost.
“Congress has now voted a fourth time to move forward with electronic logging of the existing hours of service information required for decades,” said ATA President Chris Spear in a statement. “Make no mistake, the time for debate about electronic logging is over, and we’re pleased that Congress has rejected this ill-conceived effort to delay their implementation. [This] vote should end what is left of this debate so our industry can carry on with the business of complying with this regulation.”
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Jeff says
Well we van now see that the ATA who is suppose to help truckers is totally against us they are a bunch of back stabbing idiots who is wanting them to make there pockets fatter while ours gets thinner. THANKS FOR NOTHING ATA what a piece of s…
Mark says
The ATA was never “supposed to help truckers”, it should be named the UnAmerican Unsafe Big Trucking Mega Carrier and Insurance Company Association” because it only represents mega carriers and the insurance companies that underwright their policies. Companies like Swift, JB Hunt, Schnieder, and C.R. England, with literally hundreds of serious DOT reportable accidents every year due to hiring cheap somali immigrant laborers without proper training, and in direct violation of the law that says drivers must read and speak English.
2.5MillionMiler says
@mark> Why the racial overture? Maybe the reason they hire immigrants is because the whites and the blacks are unreliable and “CANT PASS A SIMPLE DRUG TEST”. A test for things like METH. WEED. ALCOHOL. PRESCRIPTION DRUGS..
Von says
How do you follow regulations when you can’t read or speak English? A clear statement in every DMV booklet states a driver must proficiently read and speak English to obtain a CDL but yet they offer testing in Spanish. Smh. I have 17 years experience in trucking but I wouldn’t expect to be a truck driver in Germany because guess what, I can’t speak or read German.
deaconblues62 says
crime inc as prime inc.
James says
ATA anti trucker association
Brian White says
The ATA has been against truckers for years. There’s PLENTY of evidence of their love for mega-carriers, the politicians, & everything under the sun being regulated by the government.
The ATA, as an organization on the side of the truckers, is a phony & fraud.
Jeff Perkins says
I would that D.A. in the ata has never sit down in a truck maybe we all should quit and let the government take care of us since they want to be in our business
Johnny holt says
They’ve never been for the drivers just the mega carriers that lines they’re pockets
Doug Ibrahim says
ATA doesn’t represent American truckers and never has. It only supports mega carriers and their own self interest.
Anthony King says
ELD is not good period. Not good for the drivers. Poorly designed with A lot of flaws but if they want it quit fighting it and when store prices go up 30% or these spoiled rich politician’s can’t get their special coffee and food and cars set back and laugh at their crying a**** rates WILL go up and there WILL be lots of problems they made their bed let them lay in it
Charlie says
Most large, reputable companies have been using ELD for years. They definitely have the advantage but companies can only blame themselves for prolonging the inevitable. These companies will absorb the freight that smaller companies cant deliver legally. Big bank take little bank always is a winner.
Robert Graham says
no what the ELD does is take the control of how we drive and when out of the one person that knows how its done the Driver .they tell us how long we will drive and when use to be we planed the trip to suit us now the pin head in the office that thinks he knows more than the driver does it .and now they say it has to log every moment the truck moves . So that means that the law to be added to it is that the Companies now have to PAY us for EVERY MILE DROVE and though out pc miler right only far way to do it
Monte Wiederhold says
These are not REPUTABLE companies. They will not pay a decent wage or treat the majority of drivers decently. Therefore the drivers jump from one company to the another and therefore the “churn” goes on . IE: driver turnover exceeding 100% in most cases.
Tim Daniels says
AMEN – delays and disruption will occur!
Alan says
I like my privacy as it is. I dont to feel like a dog on a leash with DOT always monitoring my location. Thats the only reason why I dont want an ELD in my truck. But I guess we drivers are nothing but a ship to ATA. Many will quit because they like their privacy including me. There is already a shoryage of drivers today and it will get worse.
Trucker's Wife says
Oh well, there’s that. Next the ATA will be promoting equal pay for all truckers and fast food workers, set at 15.00/hour.
Dan The Driver says
Bring on the ELD’s! Let the chips fall where they may. Hopefully this will force the shippers & receivers to turn trucks in & out in a timely basis. If not capacity will tighten & rates will rise. Either way I think this ELD thing will be a positive.
Kc says
Good luck with that.
Johnny holt says
That’s not gonna happen either same ole crap for years best way to get they’re attention is to shut down and we’ll see how fast they back pedal then we get what we want I did it back in 1979 and can and would do again
Tim Daniels says
That is true. Hope we can stick together better than in ’79!! We will make it happen.
DUSTY says
you are dreaming,nobody cares about the driver,i dont care what any company owner says,dont believe that,be late on a couple loads,or keep driving,even if you have hours left but your 14s up and you have to park in detroit,they will see you dead before a violation on your ELD
David says
ELDs combined with the 14 hour clock is a safety hazard. I pray for the victims.
Jose E. Monteiro says
Thats 100% true, which is why ive been saying for the last two years that truckers should be fighting the 14 hour rule NOT the ELD rule… except truckers prefer to fight to be able to brake the law than fight to change it so you don’t have to brake it.
Tom says
Finally someone with a brain. Outlaw days are over we need to focus on fixing the hos rules not on how to break them. Been otr since 1997 and love my career, it was hard for me to make the transition from paper to Elogs but I did that in 2011 and I have to say that I wouldn’t go back. It’s nice to sleep at night thus making me not need to take a nap during the day.
ZEE says
QUESTION?: did your pay and benefits go up. Are you still being held hostage by shippers and receivers?. Do you like the government watching your every move? Do you like the dispatcher doing your job.
What are your thoughts on giving up your privacy? Do you have a camera watching your every move? Including when you stop to use the restroom? Is there something wrong with taking a nap during the day?.
Scientists agree and say it’s ok to rest. You, of course, know your body best, not the government.
How much of your life are you willing to let the government control?
Robert says
I suppose you aren’t a driver. You don’t have a CDL and you don’t have a clue.
Werner Enterprises has been using E-Logs since 1998 and their drivers are alive and kicking.
Kelly says
You are further clueless. Werner has been using them so long, as they had so many HOS violations they were forced to implement electronic or shut down the company. So, don’t make the feeble attempt that Werner was some pioneer for safety and elogs. I’m an O/O been using them since 09 where I’m at. However, they’re not entirely about safety, it’s a control thing, with the efforts of lobbying by special interests to further regulate what they fear and don’t understand. Also I see some of our company and other companies elog drivers rushing around, driving fast through truckstops, speeding in small towns, through constuction zones, in poor road condiitions. This is the only way you can pass ungoverned trucks and make time. You’re doing this because you’re clocks ticking and you’re in a hurry, thinking there’s no better way. This isn’t safe, professional, or intelligent, is it, true or true?
Tim Daniels says
True!!
ZEE says
true!
Paul says
So does Swift and people in cars around them are NOT so much alive and kicking. I AM a commercial driver and do NOT want this piece of s in my truck!!
Randy says
You are also a fool !
ELD’s don’t make a driver unsafe they just make him abide by the law and use better trip planning . I’ve ran ELD and paper and guess what I can run with no problem eighter way
Wayne Dearman says
Lmfao yes it makes the hands follow logbook rules but it makes a lot of hands make terrible decisions raceing that 14hr clock,stay safe cause I am I excluded myself to local work not driveIn trucks but still n the industry, if ur resident is in storm path stay safe pretainin to that also,peace out
Paul says
Don’t call me a fool…I was probably trucking when you were in diapers! I just don’t understand why you guys give up your freedom so easily…it’s not about running illegal…it’s about my freedom as a US citizen! While they’re installing your ELD, have them go ahead and insert your I d chip in your hand!
MrBigR504 says
Werner? Maaan, somebody hand me a brick!
Mrkela says
Robert ever wonder what happens to all those loads that werner can NOT delliver on time cuz they use ELD?? They get broker out to small companys that do not use elds and they GET dellivered on time every time… so do your reserch please
Johnny holt says
most of Werners loads were late for delivery before they were ever picked up
Jim says
The numbers show Werner, U.S. express, have the most dangerous driver’s on the road today.
Wayne Dearman says
Thought it was fed ex lol & swift,idk truly know just hear say & could give a shit cause I know my record is smooth lol,please stay safe
Johnny holt says
That’s right
Johnny holt says
So true
Mario Radulescu says
Yes absolutely definitely agree
Kat says
Agreed. Yeah yeah. Werner, Swift, USA.
SORRY You’re all a bunch of unexpeirienced & dangerous drivers that have done NOTHING but make the lives of DRIVERS miserable. Case & point…ELDs if not for the dangerous operations of the overabundunt numbers of all of you & then to go n join companies together WHICH BTW WAS SUPPOSED TO NOT BE LEGAL NOR MORAL TO BE ALLOWED TO DO but was done anyway MAKING YOUR REGULATION #’s EVEN LARGER AGAINST US well then, THANK YOU…BUNCH OF UNSAFE, UNCARING, CB PLAYING JACKASSES HAVE NOW, ONCE AGAIN COMPLETELY DESTROYED THE ENTIRE INDUSTRY.
SAFER…GOOD LUCK WITH THAT.
If you believe that crap…I got an island for you I’m selling.
Iriemonarch says
They don’t get paid squat either “know it all” !!!
Johnny holt says
28cents a mile to start I wouldn’t get out of bed for that
Kelvin Tyler says
Yea, while making pennies, living in their trucks for weeks at a time, and often in the woods over turn. Oh wait, is this the same Werner that keep begging me to haul their freight. Dude, the whole industry is about to calaspe
Johnny holt says
Yes but who says they have driver more like seat warmers WERNER – we employ retards no experience required I used to drive for them and remember back in the day when everyone wanted to drive for them I used to eat lunch with CL WERNER all the time but they’re not what they once was all they get are these idiots from school put with a trainer and all the trainer does is use students for a log book students barely learn to get out of the truck
Von says
And guess what the turnover rate is for Werner and take a look at their safety record. One of their dumbass drivers took out my mirror last year, when I was parked.
Rodrigue says
If someone complaint ABOUT ELD,1) because is greedy 2)because he or she want to abuse their body.3) he or she don’t care about safety. Driving a semi is not a joke, seating behind a wheel for10 straight hrs, is not a joke. The only thing I can complain about is the 30 minutes break is to short, and they should a be a gym on every truck stop. Guys ELD. Is great for the drivers…
Meme says
You are right, very dangerous and unhealthy and slavery, to force someone to sit drive for 11 hours and sleep 10 hours. Inhumane.
Maica says
Money wasted lobbying is a way to get $$$ and we all know our freedom is gone. Safety has become the reason and way to get people to vote against our freedom without their knowledge. Young generation have no clue to what freedom really is!!! We will continue to loose freedom in many areas, this is no longer a free country, it’s not communist or anything else but a global regime by a few that have been together for long time striving at global corralling of humans, discarding along the way many who love freedom, and are poor, nearly poor, below poor to fight anything. Our own troops don’t realize the fight for freedom is not real, it’s an excuse to be contained without any say.
DAVID HEBERLING says
I’m a O/O .I’m 60 years old. with ELD I WILL HAVE TO DRIVE MAX SEED LIMIT TO GET MY MILES . INSTEAD OF SLOW DOWN SOME AND SAVING FUEL THIS IS B.S.
William says
I agree with you sir ever since I initiated ELD in my truck I’ve had to drive faster in order to get my load on time and it is due to the coordinators that do knew that do not know how to run in and giving you time to get there they are as much to blame
Rodrigue says
We not driving a car, this is the first thing to have in mind. dispatcher manager is to blame this are the things we should complaint about to ata. If you don’t have reasonably times on a load, you can turn it down. They always tell you to get it, you end up with the blame of the load been late…
ZEE says
TRUE! David, one of the many benefits of ELD’s is running to the micro second!,
to get the job done. It’s not a safe system or a healthy one.
too many of the new generations in trucking never drove a truck,
and set in college listening to PHD nonsense. Then become HR/Safety/recruiter babblers. Instead of bringing on the experienced driver who knows something about trucking and it’s rigors for the driver.
Heard the line from all of them one too many time over 40 years.
Common sense would be to let the driver rest when they need to, not shackled to the wheel by an 14 hour rule running on the second hand(oops..now digital micro seconds) to make the grade.
Tom Johnson says
I have been a truck driver for 34 years. This should take effect asap. and the hours of service should be 10 driving and 12 on duty, not 11 and 14. Fines need to be placed at the business that doesn’t load and un load at your apt time. How many more people need to die and get hurt as you are running just to make a buck. Pay needs to be adjusted to drivers. Take away percentage pay as these drivers are very reckless driving like a bat out of hell running lights speeding. These people passing these stupid laws of no ELDS put your family picture in front you when you are voting. Who needs to die first. Nothing you are hauling is worth dying for or killing some one for. Rates need to be adjusted for both companies as well as owner operators. I have done both. So you arm chair quarter backs out there can’t say I do not know what I’m talking about. But we all know nothing will happen 1000’s of people will die and be seriously hurt due to an injury of drivers being over tired. Money is the root all evil. Only money matter’s not people lives and family and friends of those affected by tired drivers.
randy says
I agree.I think all drivers should be paid by the hour.Owner Operators included of which I am one.Things would change for the driver in a hurry.The day I pulled up to a dock on time and they said I will have to wait for 7 hours for the product to be ready.I would be fine with it if they had to pay $120.00 per hour for me to sit which is what they would be paying anyone with heavy equipment to wait.
William says
Agree
Rodrigue says
Yes that’s a good Idea. ELD is not the problem…
Dragon Lady says
misquoted it is “For the love of money is the root of all evil” 1 Timothy 6:10.
Johnny holt says
You’re right but it’s not gonna happen these companies are no gonna get you in and out of the dock until they and the lumpers are ready to but you’re wrong on the elogs I drove on them for four years and a otr driver can’t make good money with them they make you sit when you need to be rolling I get my sleep in the dock and where ever I can elogs have no place in trucking industry this is not a nine to five industry most of these drivers coming out of school work for slave labor due their loan payment for school these mega carriers put out so much bs and propaganda it’s not funny plus keep getting bigger because they’re getting $15.000 a student tax breaks from the government on our taxpayers dime I say make big carriers train these idiots on they’re own dime and you might see a change
ZEE says
Misquote there. THE LOVE OF MONEY IS THE ROOT OF ALL EVIL.
I took the boss’s protege 4 week wonder on a training ride, dumped on me at the last second. 4 weeks of trucking school and could not fill
out a log book(PAPER). Refused to drive for me, even a short distance
to showcase his driving ability.
That trucking school should be censured or closed. 2,500 for what?
A person scared to do his job, or learn from a seasoned driver, that is carrying a license to kill, as inept as he is. Oh, he did say he liked automatic transmissions and ELD’s, as both do the work for him.
Bottom line…SCARY!
And I don’t scare easily…..
john says
The eld has done one thing it’s made driver’s be in a hurry which is making the highways more deadly than they have ever been in history of trucking the big question is after this what could possibly be next to be placed on us we are under all this and the average person on the road can conduct themselves as a bunch of heatheren s. We all should be safe on the highways
Robert says
ELD doesn’t make drivers in a hurry. Knowing that the police don’t enforce speed limits makes drivers in a hurry. Plus, almost every state has raised speed limits from 55 to 70-75 and even 80 in some places.
Lou says
Yes, the 14 hour rule with the eld makes drivers in a hurry. It’s them against the clock, knowing if they don’t make it by a free minutes, they’ll get back handed from safety or the dispatcher. Without the eld you could still pull in 30 minuets late and be fine. 15 minuets here and 15 minuets there, still legal. Any time you’re racing the clock though, you’ll lose.
Also as for your other comment, that’s funny, states have raised the limit, but many trucks still can’t get the hell out of the way. They putz along happy as hell doing 62 mph and not getting shit done!
E. TABAKMAN says
Yep almost every state. CA, OH, and IL still 55 mph? Been awhile since I’ve driven.
We have to canvas those states heavily to raise the trucking speed limit and do away with split speed limits 🙂
Jeff says
Your wrong OH. &Illinois not raised there speed limits years ago except in major cities Michigan is the slow state and calif. Along with Indiana to slow if the speed limit is 70 which on most states it is trks. should be able to run the posted limit period
tom says
how do you figure that most trucks don’t run over 65 and 70 at the most,and if they do its mostly men who own there own trucks.
Randy says
That’s total bs . The only reason those drivers are in a hurry is bc they don’t properly plan their trip . And bc they don’t use their time wisely . The biggest hurdle in not being in a rush is too many constantly open that left door
Kat says
You think you know it all. There are far too many places you sit n wait, yet you’ve got appts. If you’re late you sit n wait again. Elds make hurry hurry hurry.
They say they will save up to 700 lives ‘& 8000 crashes a year. Lol
The first 6 months I wZnna see their stats.
Johnny holt says
You let the government take a inch they will take miles elogs are not safer it’s all about money omnitronic and qallcom are set to make billions of dollars on the elogs they’re the biggest pushers on it
Bunnie says
The ELD mandate is punishment for drivers. I myself have experienced ELD’s and I never was able to get a regular sleep schedule. Having to wake up anytime day or night as soon as my 10 hour break was over just to make it to a shipper/receiver and sit waiting to get the load/unloaded, while my clock was running. Example: Walmart sets schedules, you arrive on time and sit at their dock 4-5 hours; now I have a few hours left to drive and can’t make it to the next load on time. This reoccurring nightmare day after day takes a toll on the driver, racing against the clock!
The huge mega corporations do not care about the driver and are constantly having loads in route switched with another driver hoping to get the load to the receiver on time.
Now the best part; drivers do not get regular home time as promised. The majority of a drivers 34 hour mandatory break is sitting at some truck stop hundreds of miles away from home. Then you are expected to jump back into the job with a big smile on your face for another 70 hour week.
This rule is dangerous to truck drivers, we are humans and require regular schedules for eating and sleeping. Something these jackass non-driving rule makers do not take into account. What fools!!!!!
I drive using paper logs. I get plenty of rest and my loads are always on time. I sleep when I get tired and I am NOT a danger on the road because I am not FORCED to run out my clock driving for 11 hours a day.
Johnny holt says
Me either but most of all with paper logs is I’m not stressed out and don’t worry about getting my load delivered on time
Gary nerison says
Well once again the at a shows how stupid the organization is, eld’s do nothing but but money in the hands of the seller, one more step in the USA becoming like russia or china, guess when the trucks are parked every where because u run out of hours, and people complain, they will rethink eld’s, or better yet just park by all the ones who voted against a delayING elds, no more land of the free, truckers didn’t even get to vote on them, glad after 30 yrs I got out
Jon says
..
https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/3282/
Mrkela says
i know i will make trailer sticker that reads..” blame it on ELD ” and maybe add few thing such as” ELD control when i drive, sleep, eat, and shit”. Lets see how many accidents are made when sleepy and drowsy drivers HAVE to drive all night or when they have to park on side of the highway.. p.s the next law is a spy cam in a sleeper so there goes all of your privacy..
Johnny holt says
I like a sticker that’s says you like my slow truck go raise he’ll with my company and the government for holding you up
ZEE says
NHTSA/NTSB already commissioned that CAMERA in the sleeper study a little while ago. To a University in Virginia, which does a lot of SAFETY related
science related to the trucking industry,for the government(ATA is part of government control, like it or not).
You, as a truck driver, have no privacy. The ATA made that statement , saying the trucking regulations
from Congress have precluded your privacy for 80+ years.
This is why everyone writing here is reacting, due to OOIDA/ATA
mud slinging.
I don’t know about you, but I would like to see a constitutional lawyer
post the real laws saying that WE,AS TRUCKERS, gave up our privacy rights to bring the unwashed their everything!
ab says
i have a very different opinion on the ELD issue. Any and everything that puts restraints on greedy companies that don’t care about drivers or the public, is a good thing!!
Johnny holt says
Companies use it to they’re advantages when loads are late the same way you use it against your dispatcher when you’re out of hours to run
ZEE says
AB. Watched as a company in Bismarck changed my Randy Dally ELD hours.
Watched another flatbed company change my hours on the purple
net box. this, after setting for hours unloading on appointments. Another with the 5th line, personal driving time off duty to the next load on quality commune ELD.
Don’t work for those jokers! Tried and almost died.
These devices are for people who liked to be controlled by devices.
Not every truck driver needs hand holding. Some generations do, Not the OLD SCHOOL.
Bill says
Time to strike folks! Down with ATA, up with truckers rights!
Johnny holt says
Been saying that for years
Paul says
Park all trucks for 4 days…end of problem!
Wayne Dearman says
Supposedly on Oct 3rd to 8th but thats hear say also lol,if they do well heck yeah smooth deal
Johnny holt says
That’s right then you can get more than you want
Paul says
All these laws will pave the way for more wrecks, worse drivers, horrible safety records and , gee, we need trucks that drive themselves….that’s right sheep….go for the eld and put yourself out of a job!!
Red says
Exactly! ELD’s are simply another step toward less safe roads. Why would they want less safe roads one might ask? Simple: The more big truck wrecks people see the quicker they will welcome autonomous trucks. Welcome to the end of an industry.
Johnny holt says
👍🏻
Old man says
Swift and Knightmare are poised to step into the breach left by a lot of O/O’s that won’t be able to fulfill time constraints. This could be a double edged sword for a lot of businesses that rely on critical delivery.
Old man says
Wow, just learned Heartland has bought IDC. Talk about positioning for the bloodbath.
tom says
when you run elds you run the risk of over doing it,you are pushed to your limit to get load there on time with nothing but short breaks and then get worn out before getting another load to get back to were ever your going,you are pushed to your limit to do your full driving hours before your time runs out. and driving is not like doing some day to day job then go home for your 12 to 15 hours and sit on your ass.
Johnny holt says
He’s and your bill fold is still empty
ZEE says
Ever do the 8 and two split. An eld will have a cow. It’s perfectly safe
and still on the books. But for many, too hard to manage the time.
Ergo…the ELD. Please hold our hands and watch over us as we sleep
MR . DOT MAN!
Oh THANK YOU, you have saved us!
L A Draper says
Let the strike planning begin.
Johnny holt says
I’m ready I’ve been talking to port drivers pulling containers and all of them are ready to strike I’m talking about in December if the mandate is no lifted
Caballon says
Im O/O lease company
I dont give a f… if they ask me to leave the company, Im Ready for strike
Cheyenne says
What I want to know is why is it OK for RVS and Motor Homes to run non stop with no special license or taxes. We just the laborers out here delivering their products we can’t afford anymore. Way to go America😖
Johnny holt says
Because they’re not required to have a cdl
Joe says
I’m new to the trucking industry, can any Vets break this down or where can I get more info?
Johnny holt says
Stay home and flip burgers you will make about the same money and be home with your family every night and that’s the truth
CLEE says
COME Y’ALL! LETS GO THE WALKOUT ON. WE CAN SHOW THEM BETTER THAN WE CAN TELL THEM, YOU KNOW. GET THE WORD OUT NOW!
Mike says
For this reason. My 30 year trucking career is done.
ZEE says
mike…THANK YOU!. What kind of flowers do you want on
the thankless headstone of another good trucker gone…
Myheartfeltcondolences….
OptimusPrime says
Pick a day to start. 11/22-26/2017. Everybody be home for Thanksgiving.
Johnny holt says
I’m hearing the first week of December
Jeff says
I haven’t heard anything and my CB is never turned off
RAMBO1 says
It’s a fact, that ELDs will work on a pre loaded trailer operation and this is why the ATA ( Mega Carrier’s front ) lobbied so hard as it thinks that it will kill us O/Os who have to sit 6-7 hours live loading and unloading oilfield pipe and fresh produce. The mega carriers aren’t configured for live loads so it will drive prices up in those segments. We have hauled Swift and Knight loads that they paid me more than their bid rate to protect their Shipper Contracts. Take a deep breath,….in three years or less, the ATA will be seeking an amendment to their ill conceived rule. !
DUSTY says
TO LATE,I WILL BE DONE WITH OTR
Debra says
I have a driver on eld and when shippers take 8 hours to load it eats up his 14. If they want to mandate eld then they need to get rid of the 14.
Johnny holt says
It’s all about control people
Jeff says
What they need to do is come down on shippers and receivers not drivers
Ricci Logan says
for those that thought this wasn’t gonna happen need I remind you about Obamacare being forced down our throats or even the promise’s to repeal it and the 2 votes that failed. so long as the majority who government us are progressive nothing will change….just wait for the votes on the tax cuts you think you’re going to get
Barney Big Rig says
The ATA & OOIDA are worthless entities that do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING except line their own pockets with the money they make off the backs of the drivers!! They have NEVER been worth crap & they’ll NEVER be worth crap & it shows!!💯
Johnny holt says
Your right and wrong the ata is all about the mega carriers that are lining ata pockets and not for the drivers but the ovoids is about the drivers
Mario says
Well, USA is going the North Korea way. There will be no diference.
Carlo says
Stop working 1week and we’ll see if they don’t stop with this crap
Jeff says
I said that a long time ago
Omar says
nothing wrong with Eld its your time used it and enjoyed it…
go green ,I like it ,its good for environmental
Truckdriver says
Don’t forget to log off duty when u wake up in the middle of the night to go pee if u leave it in the sleeper u will be falsifying your logs. Big government wants to know what u are doing at all times
Paul Yancey says
Hope people don’t mind me parking in their front yard or drive way when my time runs out… Bummer….I’ll just camp out on their lawn too…..maybe even knock on the door for a bite to eat….I’m sure they all will understand right??
Johnny holt says
You gave me a idea let’s all pick a day and let’s park on the shoulder nose to tail and get out and protest seems like everyone else is getting away with it why can’t we
Tommy M. says
Well this is no BS. Come end of nov. 2017, I’m not going to be out here having to take an extra day to a day and a half. to do a trip. It’ll just be a waist of time. More time to make a trip equal less trips per year equal less money.
Alexander Makarchuk says
Nobody actually makes a point on the fact that many states are not ready cor eld implementation. The fact is that states like NY, CT, MA, NJ and many more don’t have enough rest areas and places for drivers to take 10 hr. breaks. This is the biggest problem IMHO.
Brian Schroeder says
Time to trade in the 15 liter….The hell with mpg and courteous driving…will grab a 16 liter set at max hp with a racing helmet to wear. Every day will be a race. Planning on stopping right on the interstate to piss just like the big companies. All in the name of saftey……complete hogwash. Our founding fathers had a way to deal with over reach like this.
Johnny holt says
Hell driver it’s a race now but at 65 mph
Chuck C says
Wow there sure are a lot of illiterate truck drivers. I’d be embarrassed to type a comment pro or con if I didn’t have the smarts to spell it correct. My company has been using ELD’s for several years and our fleet is governed at 65mph. Some deliveries are late, most are on time. Some drivers make lots of money. Some are lazy steering wheel holding whiners like many of the commenters on here. One thing for sure, we don’t have any logbook violations and a 95% carrier rating which means we don’t get hauled out back at the scales for inspections. Our owner/operators are the biggest advocates of ELD’s, because they know how to truck. They plan and they produce, because they have to. Once they switched to ELD’s, they couldn’t believe they were so stubborn. Far better miles. Better rest. Less stress. So I suggest you stop crying like the reputation we all have suggests, and don’t knock it until you tried it. If after using ELD’s following the new not old legislation, you still don’t like them. Find a new profession that doesn’t have the government regulating your income. Oh wait, those jobs don’t exist anymore. Sorry, not sorry.
ZEE says
Sorry, we will ask our ELD’s to type and email.
George Kalogeropoulos says
The 14 hour rule has to be removed and an 18 hour rule put in place.I do ltl and its not possible to do 600 miles a day (60 miles x10 hours)with the 14 hour rule..Also the elog is raping drivers and will bring down their earnings!It will be the death of many companies and driving carreers.Imagine you take your 34 hour reset in Laredo and then your e dispatched to pick up produce which takes 5,6 hours to load! It s crazy and America which was the land of the free will become the land of the slaves and Big Brother!
Rodrigue says
That’s a lie, I did 600 miles on the 10 hrs @ 65 mph.
ZEE says
i did 657.
Jeff says
That’s right I do 600+ most days
George says
Let’s gather around Washington to tell them we need more flexibility
Bill says
ELD’s just another attempt by government to empty the pockets of those who might as well due to regulations, be called the working welfare reciepant. I truly believe in the hours of service, but it needs to expand into all drivers as well as truckers, it’s not safe for anyone out there to drive too many hours, and this goes for the Hugh issue on the roads more then truckers, the 4 wheeler driver.
But on the other hand it’s a revenue trap targeting truckers, what does the trucker do when you have all these states closing down rest areas, and or any other place to park claiming they can’t afford to opperate them anymore. Let’s keep in mind if you want the commercial drivers has to put up with there is already not enough parking spots to keep up with the demands now, this new ELD law is only putting more trucks on the road because companies are going to have to hire more and more to keep up with their companies demands, making finding parking even more difficult then it is today
What is government going to do about the shippers and consignee’s who run the driver out of hours then tell a driver this is private property, your not permitted to park here even though we are sorry it’s our fault you ran out of hours to drive, is the fine we can’t cover up going on that facility no it’s going to the driver, who is the innocent victim, but has no possible chance of following HOS Rules to try finding a legal parking spot.
This government needs to focus on the real problems in this country, verses throwing blame on the American Trucker and killing him and his family who can’t afford to live these days anyways.
Kc says
Interesting so now when a roll over with an ELD happens the ATA can just stutter the words it’s about safety. Stupid is what stupid does. If the think road rage is bad now. Like Brian stated the racing helmet is on. As an O/O it’s going to be sad when the shipper comes to load me in 2 hours and I’m not there what a shame. If they want me back that will be an extra charge of $400 dollars for wasting my ELD time.
Actually the real sad part is again the small business owner that needs O/O to move their freight it’s going to be bad for the little guy all around. Let the ELD bloodbath begin. Truckers start you clock and engines it’s go time.
Clarence Tams says
The big companies can go further Eld because they have Highway people going point A to point B pin-to-pin. Then they had their City trucks deliver in pick up loads. It’s the way that type of freight can operate. But now let’s get into the small company with 10 trucks one driver gets the same truck same trailer all year long. It does not make sense to do the pin-to-pin thing on a small company in the truth of the matter is I wouldn’t want to have nothing to do with these big companies where I got to pull 10 different or 20 different trailers per year I’ve seen what the big company trailers look like I’ve seen how the big company drivers drive They Don’t Really Care it’s a joke but it’s the big boys versus the honest hard-working people. And the other thing yes they’re in a hurry to get their time in before their truck gets deregulated so they’re the ones that are in the hammerling passing you coming onto the on-ramp and they don’t care who they’re cutting off when we doing 30 miles an hour but they’re cutting the other guy off in the fast lane doing 65 mile an hour or 70 or maybe 80 in this day and age they don’t care to talk about safety I think the big company should be ashamed of themselves. And then there’s the cattle haulers used to do that for 25 years how’s that going to work for you he held e mr. Warner is Warner Swift are they going to haul cows I hope not because they kill enough of their own drivers every year are sorry correct that enough for their own drivers get killed every year we wouldn’t want to have them hauling livestock now. Shame on you proponents of Eld I’ve been doing this over 3 million miles I have the best record one could possibly hope for in granted I’ve been lucky but I ain’t never crashed the s*** out of anything.c
ZEE says
same here. Clean PSP/CSA and MVR 25 years before they came into being. A mud flap violation ,and an overweight container out of the rail yard… straight into the loving arms of the DOT.
Over 20 years ago.. Things happen. Now
the ELD will drive out the guys who don’t need hand holding.
You all know that one law leads to another and another and another….
Ronald Sadler says
Its time for all truckers to strike everyone stop delivering freight now!!!!!!!!!!!!! That will stop these idiots
Greek Cruz says
ELDs are not good because you can’t plan your trip accordingly. There are too many varibales that non-truckers arent taking into consideration. Every trip is unique. The 14hr rule is a “one size fits all solution” for every trip. It’s flawed and because every load is different.
Maximus says
Welcome to electronic concentration camp !
Michael says
I can’t wait till the rates go up because there’s not enough drivers. Illigal drivers are keeping rated low, bye pulling frieght that shouldn’t have between pulled.
Night rider says
All is lost ,freight will be late and drivers will tried, it’s a bad thing trying to beat a 14 hour clock ,your lively hood is gone we need to strike!!
Charlie says
Bunches of thieves voted down trucker’s hope. I believed they never understood when they voted it. Truckers ! Let’s show our freedom. Congress not controll our Gun and our Freedom.
Julie says
Just let it go let it happen I’ve been a driver for several years now on ELD’s and make it just fine ! Drivers who run paper logs run illegal every single day that they’re driving on the road the ones who do not run illegal a big hand clap to them but the ones who are fighting the hardest to make the electronic logs not happen are the ones who run their paper logs illegal every day ! ELD’s are going to happen if you don’t like it there’s not much you can do about it! Stop fighting the inevitable and just deal with it !!!!
Jim says
Well wait till we have natural disasters like Harvey & Irma. Then let’s see how convenient it is for them to suspend your ELD and HOS
Jeff says
It won’t take that I worked f OK r a company that repeatedly changed my ELD all the time to benefit them so they can falsify your logs whenever they want to get the load there but let a driver do it and they’re toast
Ethel says
A Natonal Truck Strike for 1 week.
No gas, No groceries, No nothing.
Thats all it would take to get government
out of the trucking business.
Doug says
Ata and fmcsa don’t want any distractions for the truck drivers but they fail to realize that all these electronic devices are the biggest distraction for the driver there is all them devices cause more accidents than any thing else. They need to think about passing laws for general public instead of always putting more idiotic laws against the truck driver .
Josh says
OK instead of complaining about the eld mandate embrace it you’ll learn how to manage your time down to the minute if you wanna make good money on e logs if you run hard and keep those doors closed you’ll make great money out here now e logs isn’t the problems they hit the nail on the head with the cheating issue with e logs yes you can’t cheat but it’s not the eld’s that need addressing it’s the hours of service more specifically the 14 hour rule. If they done away with that and made it that you can drive 11 in a 24 hour period and after 8 take a mandatory 30 min break and after your 11 take a 10 or split sleeper whatever you need to do. Just do away with the 14 hour rule that would be much better so the issue isn’t with the eld it’s with hos
Kelly says
I’m currently on elogs using Peoplenet since 09. I have no.problem being on time, not rushing, no calls or messages from dispatch. Sometimes I gotta roll when 10 is up, others may be 11 or 12 hour break. However, there are ways to cheat on the elog, just like a logbook. There are also ways to use it, not cheating that saves you time through the day and week. I only have just over a years experience with Qualcomm, rest is Peoplenet.
Darron Tabor says
This real easy all us truckers need to take a day off or two and see how feel than and rise freight high as hell ! We as truckers need to stick together we have the leverage. If want war let’s give it to them . If want change go back to drive 10 in a 15 hour window and 8 off and no 30 minutes off duty and can stretch your hours by going off duty that’s how you do it!! Don’t penalize the driver all they are doing Is forcing drivers to drive when they could take a nap!!!!
Randy Ware says
Thanks to ELD. I know have to drive up and down the busiest highway in land with a company , with most of there 50 truck fleet at almost the same time because they all have to leave at the same time now. They have a crash rating in the 90th percentile.
George says
If we just writing reviews and do nothing never will see some relief . Lets work togheter and try to do something for our tough and over regulated job.
Ozzy says
Yrs ago we had Bob tails circling the white house over gas prices. Truckers are treated like s–t..it’s not gonna change…
Charlie says
I hope it goes into effect Dec 17 as planned. On Dec 21, Babin and OOIDA are look like geniuses.
M Whitelaw says
It will only take 10-14 days for them to change their minds
Ladies and gentlemen the time is now
If you want you voice to be heard.
Park it
…..it’s two weeks around Christmas
What better way to spend time with family
Von says
How about every trucker shuts down on December 17!!!!! Pass it on.
Randall says
Why is this law been pushed tgrew so fast .I am out on the road and after 5 pm or later you can’t find a parking spot so what tge hell are tgey going to do with all of us who can’t find a parking spot park on the interstate.bur they don’t care they are hone suckling on a cold beer or something else. Its,all about money and to cut ours…
Mike says
Get a team member
ZEE says
i feel a sick day coming on…. 49 CFR PART 392…can’t force u to drive when ill
or do something illegal like drive broken truck… i see flat tires galore in my
truckers crystal ball…have fun with it!
Take picture of ELD message on cell phone, that stated u are ill and can’t drive.
Then when comapny fires u , Make a complaint to OSHA!
Mike says
Good I hope the fuel goes up to 8 dollars a gallon too, put all you losers who arent making any money anyway out of business. Its absolutly true people who want paper logs are dishonest cheats who dont deserve a job.
Jeff says
That’s a damn lie I run paper logs and I’m not dishonest or cheating so speak for yourself driver.