Watch what you say over the CB or you could be slapped with a fine for thousands of dollars. A trucker based out of Bainbridge, New York named Donald Beers got in an argument with another trucker on the road not far from him. As the conflict escalated, the other trucker, Fred Lawson, called in the authorities after he claims that Beers began to threaten him over the CB.
Both drivers were traveling eastbound on I-84 when the incident occurred. Lawson claims that Beers threatened him saying “pull over and I’ll put a bullet between your eyes.” As the threat was made, Lawson claimed that he saw Beers reach under his seat for something.
When police officers searched Beers’ vehicle, they did not find any firearms, but issued him a citation for harassment. It is unclear whether or not Beers was issued a fine, but according to the FCC, violating the rules or regulations of CB Radio use can result in a fine of up to $10,000.
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No more talking trash on the radio what is the world coming too??
We use to be able to talk ask if another driver needed help on the cb. Sadly we can no longer due that. Can not even find out what is holding up the traffic. For me I leave my off.I do not want to hear the fights bad language or ask wete they can find sex or druges. Ieven afaid and stop and help anothet trucker for fear I will be killed. You can even get out of your truck in a truck stop with out some kind of threat on so body asking for money. Most of us trucker do not even know how to wait our turn in line or any were else.I been driving for twenty two years and it just getting worse. This dose not help any trucker it make all of us look bad. Have a great day
Well ive only been a driver a year an a half now ! How ever with 8 months over the road with a 53″step deck. Ive talked to several other “truckers” & enjoyed the conversation and some tips from them on the road and for the most part every one was respectful and id have to say theirs nothin wrong being a trucker and theirs still a lot of good people behind the wheel …JM2C !!
Wow Lawson has no spine and thin skinned
Right… because there’s NO WAY IN HECK he could have had a gun, or even got rid of it before the cops pulled him over. Heck no. Never happen. No firearms in a rig. Can’t do it. No body does.
im sorry but you say no way he could have a gun in a truck,probably 75% of truckers are armed and if not they should be. i carry two.a sidearm and a pump shotgun and have for 35years.
Don’t get caught with a sidearm on I-84 in NY where that driver was searched, or you’re going to jail for at least a year…..unless of course you are from NY and have a permit.
Test them, and update me with the outcome!
I have found more than one new plastic Ruger or Rossi pistol box (that you buy them in) with the serial number still clearly visible on the sticker on the side at truck stops in grassy areas or plainly sitting on top of a trash can.
If you think there are no guns in trucks, you are dead wrong.
Firearms are indeed allowed in Commercial vehicles. My Tennessee State issue Concealed Carry Permit even allows for a fully loaded Shotgun which I carry in my rig at all times. This may not be your company policy, but it is allowed. Oh, and if you are concerned over all the signs at businesses we frequent – which state ” No firearms allowed on this property” – Those signs cannot infringe upon your right to carry within your vehicle, which is not considered by law to be their property. You simply cannot carry the weapon outside the vehicle. I even carry firearms while delivering to state penitentiaries – their policy is to clear the weapon and check it in at guard house before entering.
Hope this helps to alleviate any ignorance based anxiety concerning firearms carry while operating a commercial motor vehicle.
You cannot bring a weapon onto private property if there is a sign prohibiting it your right to carry stops at the property line.
I think the poster stating no guns are ever in trucks was being sarcastic…not sure why you guys are debating his statement.
Yeah, let that happen to you and then he does pull a gun out at you. What happens now?
What about the rule that you’re supposed to shut up and let other people talk? If one rule is going to be enforced, let’s get all of them enforced. Plus a reward for being able to identify the guy who won’t shut up at all on the radio (that is actually a rule that you have to shut up and let other people talk, not like you’re saying anything important anyway “qhofoasdoasofasodnfsd and SUPER TRUCKER SUPER TRUCKER, YOU HEAR ME? GOOOOO SUPER TRUCKER” unintelligible rambling….. It’ll like a game, you keep talking and try to hide from us, and we try to figure out who you are, get you a fine, and get paid. It’ll keep us more awake on the road.
This is why so many companies are either removing CB’s and/or drivers are not installing them.
When I started driving in the 80’s CB’s were useful to help with traffic, boredom, and those pesky bears. But then what I call the none professional driver became the norm. and then we started to hear the trash talking, the whine about trucking, the slams against the big companies. I finally gave up and when my nicer CB died I bought a $30 cheapo to work in those real important times like at shippers or receivers. Maybe help with getting information on construction or accidents. Otherwise I just keep it turned off. Its really just another strike against trucking and how drivers stopped treating each other as comrades.
You are so right John. Back in the day we depended on them. You could have a decent conversation with people, especially late at night to stay awake. Eh, once in a while you would get someone ready to start an argument, but they always turned into a joke later. It’s sad how the industry has changed and has become a harder working profession than a fun working profession.
No, what is sad is the ones like John there
that just gave in and let them take over. I just
ignore the stupid stuff and keep on talking,
they do go away after a few miles.
John your as bad as Lawson in my opinion. I have been driving for 31 years, and as you I hate how some of this has changed. On occasions I will turn my radio down because of the garbage I hear on it, but never off. You never know when having it on can make a difference in helping out a fellow motorist, and I have seen times when seconds can count.
Totally agree with you. I turn my squelch up so if somebody needs to get ahold of me they can. I have seen many and I mean many trucks that have had a problem with there truck and you can’t get ahold of them. There is a whole different breed driving trucks these days, as you know just as well as I do been on the road 24 years now.
Have a great day. Be careful out there and God bless
Yeah, about the same, here, John. I think that trash talk, as much as anything else, has played a real part in eroding public respect for truckers.
I remember back in the 70s when we had that CB fad and everyone and his mother had a CB (is anyone else here old enough to remember that?). At that time, the public did get its first glimpse into the trucking lifestyle and, unfortunately, there were many at that time who represented the industry poorly. However, the fad has passed and not many people have them anymore. The ones who do have them now (other than truckers) seem to not know what it’s supposed to be for. I hear a lot of non-truckers (punks) on the radio who seem to like to bait the drivers by broadcasting insults, challenges, etc. It’s not just the drivers who are acting asinine. The best response for trash talking CB Commandos is to ignore them. What are they going to do, jump through the radio? Calling the police only makes a person look like a whiny 5-year-old in the eyes of the cops (who are probably STILL laughing around the coffee counter about this). If we involve the police too often we could end up getting CBs regulated again (like we need ANY MORE regulation). People just need to think before they overreact and ruin it for everyone.
If you guys want to see where CB use is as it was intended, take a trip on the Mississippi. There is never any trash talk, just mutual respect, questions handled politely, etc. Towboat captains call you captain and just answer questions. The lockmasters are the same, as are the bridge masters. 14 is the hailing channel, as I remember, bridgemasters 13. I asked a towboat captain for that one as we couldn’t get response on 14. There is a saying on the river I will never forget.. Someone helps you and you try to pay them says,”I don’t do anything for you you wouldn’t do for me”. They are a different breed of cat.
Oh yeah Jim, I remember the year the CB fad happened…it was the Christmas of 1973……before that NO one had a CB, we all flashed our lights at each other if there was a bear down the road. Back in the days of the Cracker Box GMC, Imoryville International’s and the Diamond Reo and Brockways and don’t forget the Marmons’s.
Before 45′ trailers, back when some trailers even had meat rails in them, I had a 12′ high 40′ Great Dane I pulled for 15 years and pulled a many a load of swingin meat……don’t see that no more……any way OLE Buddy and not good buddy either, we are a dying breed. The fun is not what it was back in our day. Safe travels and happy trails.
I am happily retired from trucking. I started in the early 70s and for a few years I did not have a CB. But I finally bought CB, had one and for many years it helped me stay awake and pay attention. Helped with weather, wreck reports. Also helped get drunk drivers off the road. More than once I tied in with other drivers on the CB and we told Smoky what the idiot was driving. As it happened, drivers ahead of us were watching for him and we ended up with him stuck among a bunch of 18 wheelers and pissed off drivers. (Truck drivers tend to take it personally when people on the road try to kill us.)
Right on, John. I don’t even turn my CB on anymore. It used to be a valuable tool for us OTR guys, but the last time I tried to alert others of a road hazard I was jumped on by a new guy who was angry that I interrupted his discourse on who was the best rapper. No more, my friend. Cheryl is right on, too. I remember west bound on I-80 coming down the Lincoln hill into Laramie (?). I broadcast “I’m on top of the world!” Then I let out a trucker-like squeal: “wheeeeeeeee!!!” I heard three other drivers do the same, and even better, two weeks later, coming down the same hill, I heard somebody else do the same thing. It used to be fun.
John Burleson
If you threatened someone’s life you are either a total TOOL, or an idiot. It can be handled one of two ways. Either what Lawson did, or by defending your life with deadly force. Myself I try not to get into confrontations out on the road but if you threaten me and then pull in behind me when I stop at the next place I need to, You had better expect me to be ready to defend my life with whatever means necessary because there are to many crazies out here for me to be unprepared and or lax about it.
Amen, the nutzoid factor is off the charts . Have witnessed two seperate incidents involving handguns and CB radios in the last 30 years. One was a drug related event, the other was probably a drug related event. Both times people got shot and died.
It’s a CB radio. People don’t know who you are unless you tell them. Just let the jackass bray and you just go on your way. Have we become a nation of children, scared of our own shadow? SHEESH!
Unfortunately, they were beside each other. As soon as “the gun” was mentioned, it became a death threat. Lawson had every reason to believe his life was in danger. What Beers did was stupid, borderline-criminal, and he got less than he deserved.
Love the name though, I wonder if his namesake had anything to do with his mouth.
For the record, I agree with your statement about defending yourself. If anyone has the poor judgment to make an aggressive move on me, he had better be prepared to suffer the consequences. However, a braying jackass broadcasting his ignorance doesn’t scare me in the least. Mouthy guys are usually knocked out with just one punch. It’s the quiet ones you have to look out for.
Good point John; It’s because types like Boethel (not sure what Larry’s point is) are the reason I do not turn the CB on anymore except for emergencies…
It’s road rage! They both are guilty.
They BOTH sound like ladies. I didnt know anybody even used those things anymore, they kinda went out with cassette tape players didnt they? Last time I even saw one being used the gentlman involved had never heard of the internet.
Donald was reaching for his beers, and Fred said the laws on Donald’s case. Get it ? Haa haa . . . .
Thanks for helping out other drivers with accident and hazard reports on the road…. NOT.
Like Allen said only a fool can argue with himself, if you stop talking he will go away, but calling the cops is a bitch move just be quiet and let him talk to his self. We have enough harassment from the cops without driver’s calling them. Man up dude.
Just another CB Commando. On the other hand, why get the police involved? Whatever happened to just ignoring the other party? This guy showed a real lack of sense (not to mention no gonads) when he decided to whine and cry to Mister PO-leece man. Grow a pair or find another job where you are less likely to get your little feelings hurt.
That is the way I see it. Keep using the c.b. Drivers lets work to stick together just because we are driverd. Ignore the dumb stuff. They will soon get on board. Be safe drivers.
All of them I got into it with on the road were poor drivers and liars. Can you hear me now?
‘Wow Lawson has no spine and thin skinned”, “your as bad as Lawson in my opinion”, “calling the cops is a bitch move, Man up dude”, “They BOTH sound like ladies” and “you dragged your whining up here” are all prime example comments of the bully mentality… those who use intimidation–threats, insults, disparaging remarks or physical violence–to strong arm, browbeat or even terrorize those whom they perceive as victims. A bully’s existence depends upon NOT being exposed. Societal rules and civil and criminal laws, finally, are now pointed at stopping this type of behavior. IF Beers made the threat he committed a crime and Lawson, in my rarely humble opinion, is not only right to have reported the matter but should be commended for doing so. A CB is a valuable tool for trucker communication; it allows for accident reports, traffic info, requests for assistance, checking in/out with shippers and receivers, adverse road conditions, Smokey reports or basic socializing and friendly chatter. Unfortunately what you hear mostly are the psychos, sickos, bozos, Rambos and Romeos. Don’t you think it’s time to stop the bullies? I’m back quiet now… I’ll let the other bullies-in-denial get their two cents into the conversation.
Yes, he was being a pussy for calling the police and participating in road rage. He should have left it alone.. Its a question of he said this he said that in my opinion. The cb is an obsolete way to communicate since the bandwidth doesn’t even reach let alone be audible enough unless you’re within a 100 yards now.
And sure enough… one pops up.
I shut the cb off long ago because of these type of loud mouth losers. The trucker of today is nothing but low life scum . I don’t say every driver is in this class but most have no class and that’s why we don’t get respect from anyone. It has nothing to do with being thin skinned or a wimp but look at statistics about people getting shot over nothing. I don’t need my family hearing these losers talking trash because it just shows everyone how low lifes are running our trucks
I turn on the box to talk to guard shacks and receiving/shipping departments when I’m onsite. Other than that, it’s off. Too much trash, too much drama, too much stupidity. Finally got tired of racial slurs, Obama hatred and super trucker egos. I don’t even use Ch 9 anymore and I can contact state police in the advent of an accident faster on my cell phone.
After many years of being home I went back over the road for a trip recently. Being a truckers wife back then, I used to enjoy listening to road scholars,Coffee breaks at rest stops, telling jokes to each other,the old guy in Gainesville florida area talking to everyone, and being kept awake while driving tired and everyone basically taking care of each other in a “trucker brotherhood”. I was really disappointed with this last trip because not only was I alone being divorced now, and don’t know every road in the US, but no one was talking on the radio anymore! Yeah you hear the occasional truckers at the truck stops, but it sure wasn’t like it used to be. Its a shame the “bully and foreign driver mentality” has taken over our highways, and the young truckers don’t have a chance to share the “Brotherhood of Truckers”anymore.
“Unfortunately what you hear mostly are the psychos, sickos, bozos, Rambos and Romeos. ”
What I’ve been saying about CB pretty much since the FCC deregulated it, and everyone started using those 100+ watt radios to talk to another guy 100 yards away…
I disagree with most of you….People who make death threats do need to be taken seriously..and these guys are the reason that there is a huge push to disarm the honest citizen….
The general.. non gun public see this clown ..and CB/Internet Tough guy as just the average regular Gun Owner…Who need to be disarmed before he kills dozens of people ….just because someone said something to him…
“Thinking about starting a Trucker Brotherhood” Facebook moderated of course…..”
Put it on F-Book, and you’ll NEVER see me participate.
When I did drive I hated the cb. Only time it was on was at shippers/receivers or if we were held up at traffic accidents and bad weather.
Regardless who is at fault in an incident on the road, the best way to defuse a CB confrontation is to say, “My bad, sorry man.” You don’t even have to mean it, and in five minutes no one will remember.
Also, professional drivers must realize that channel 19 has been lost to the wing-nuts, and by popular movement a new channel for trucking information needs to be established.
Used to be in the “GOOD OLE DAYS”, been at it 32 years. You would hear some of the most beautiful voices late at night, them trying to stay awake, at the same time keeping you awake, or singing out of boredom you wondered why some were not singing professionally. Jokes, Jokes and more Jokes. Some drivers imitated voices of cartoons or Hollywood actors. Me voice imitator both. Christmas carols at Christmas, God Bless you at Easter. Long conversations went to the “other” channel. Drivers that you seen from time to time on the road, stop get a cup of coffee or a bite too eat. Driver broke down, get on the radio another pulled over to assist in the repair or to just give you a ride. The radio was just fun, laughing and joking your kids could listen no problem, of course there always the “one mouth” cursing.
Most of you driving for a long time remember this:
“You better watch out, You better not speed, You better not smoke that wacky weed, Because Somkey is out there today, He is checking your logs and checking them twice looking in the cooler under the ice” and so on. Heard it at Christmas Time.
I miss the “GOOD OLE DAYS” !!! Most of all I miss the “RESPECT and CAMARADERIE” we “ALL” had for each other..!!!!
Kevin
You can still hear some of that classic CB talk in the Portland Oregon area on a Saturday afternoon on channel 19.
Those were the days….
Kevin,
Readin your note made my eyes water just a tad thinkin back on how it truly was The good ole days. I started in 1971 driving for my Dad hauling lumber and shingles and in 73 he bought a 40′ Great Dane reefer and we started haulin meat and what ever else could fit in a reefer.
We all wore western style clothes….not flip flops and pajamas…….we all laughed at each others jokes at what was then REAL truck stops, helped each other with their truck cause MOST of us were true owner operators, not the lease clowns of today…..A dying breed we are.
Happy trails.
JT
If people would just act like professional drivers, professional being the key word here, this sort of thing would never happen. If you don’t like what someone has to say, don’t reply. It’s a little like the internet. Ignore the unprofessional drivers and keep on trucking. Converse with the professional and help each other as much as possible. No one else is going to back up drivers. It’s up to you, me and everyone else to keep it professional, to keep it respectful, to keep it safe and to be there in the even another driver is in distress. I remember people asking for assistance, but couldn’t get the message out because a couple of morons were stepping all over his weaker radio arguing about something stupid.
Bout time they start doing something with the “radio rambos” out there. The CB used to be a helpful tool for truckers, but all it’s good for now is another way for inbred rednecks to shoot off their mouths and show their stupidity.
Half the people that drive trucks have mental problems: personality disorders that prohibit them from holding down regular jobs. Even their wives don’t want them around. They are the ones that will never admit that they are the problem though. They always want to go up to other people and tell them what their problems are . They always want to tell the next guy about the speck in his eye when they got a giant sequoia hanging down from their own eye. You can never have a conversation with these people because they are too busy trying to give you advice you didn’t ask for, insulting you to put you on the defensive and trying to make you feel bad because that is how they make themselves feel good about their inferiority complex.
And no matter what state you are in, if you are at a truck stop and turn on the CB I guarantee you will hear the same guy that sounds like he got a frog stuck in his throat saying the exact words:
“UH, where’s all the commerical?………where’s all the bay dolls?……come on!”
BREAK 19!! Ide like 2 say that everyone is missing the big point here. Yes it takes 2 to argue ..ok? But what has happened to the trucking industry is the only thing I can think that caused this in the first place. Ive been driving 32 years ok. Ive made alot of money and made peanuts also but I have seen this alot people get behind on bills marriges disolve over $$ and drivers lose loads and so on. I’ve been around long enouph to relize that “DEREGULATION” has played a huge part in these arguements. The govmt. Doesn’t care if were making money they only care if they are and your paying taxes. The guy thats bragging about making bookoo money is hiding his real feelings about his life being a mess. Maybe im wrong but that’s how I see it. E-logs are gonna kill more drivers and innocent others because a driver us running against a clock. It’s simple for us that drive o see were alot of poblems ly! Think about it folks QUESTION: when is the last time you got passed in a 45 mph construction zone by a big name co. Driver?? First they deregulate us then they drive us to the edge. While all along they know that its unsafe to begin with. This craziness ly with those who set the rukes!. THANKS FOR THE BREAK….PORKCHOP GONE.
Sorry for my spelling.
OK, really? The police are going to start enforcing the FCC rules and regulations on truck drivers,lol!
Just another thing to get more money out of us, and that is all it boils down to. Yet, police do nothing at all to the idiots on big base station radios who get on channel 19 causing all kinds of trouble and even traffic accidents that have lead to death! Ever go through Columbus, OH? Get in the downtown split, and you have a hell of a time trying to hear what is going on ahead of you! Why? People who believe that they have the right to cause aggravation, just because they can! The base station radios that cover up important information that truck drivers are trying to relay to one another such as stopped traffic, accidents, etc. You cant hear a thing because, some A HOLE wants to run a kicker! Get where I-70 & I-71 meet, and it can be a disaster really quick! It’s enough that in the trucking profession that we have to put up with BS from all the people who drive 4 wheel phone booths,cut you off,tail gate you, & block you into slower or even stopped traffic! Why doesn’t the FCC rules apply to those A holes?
hello. I was thinking along the same lines. Police used to listen to the whiner on the phone, and laugh about the call after they hung up. “We’ll send a whole squadron of interdepartmental units out after this terrorizing driving with ‘something possibly in his jacket’, har-har-har”. The police have been eating too many female hormones too. It could be just their money angle too. Or just a lonesome bear looking to get his jollies pulling over a big bad trucker. It is partly our fault for allowing the reputation to slide as Total Control put it, that the community just doesn’t police itself as well as it used to, and it would be better to go back to how things were.
If the FCC were truly interested in their own rules governing the CB airwaves, there would be a requirement for testing to qualify for a license.
I have to mention that roadrage happens, in case you haven’t been paying attention. To be fair Lawson also made a stupid choice. One would think a professional driver would know how to diffuse a road confrontation. Evidently he lacks the simple skill to ignore stupidity. We’re expected to know how to deal with idiots on the road making stupid decisions. Every proffesion has challenges. If you can’t handle the heat stay out of the kitchen and let the real drivers do the driving. Lawson needs to find a desk job that has a speed dial whinephone to his boss when he feels insulted.
If violating the rules on a CB, for allegedly doing something like this, then why aren’t the FEDS going after all these CB shops, truck washes, and other places that advertise the stuff they sell or do?
After 28 years. I finally gave up my CB for HAM Radio. Where Professional drivers can be heard and talked too! Do I miss my CB, not a chance. It’s a bummer we as professionals got to deal with the modern day Super Truckers. 73’s… Bob
Well, you guys can say what you want, I for one wish the authorities would enforce cb etiquette far more than they do. I’m glad this guy got busted.
Just setting here reading these messages from some of you, your as guilty as the two the story is all about. This whole world is sooo messed up anymore, so much hate and discontent. Its all about ME, MYSELF and I anymore. Nobody gives a damn about nothing or nobody anymore. The sad part is its only going to get worse.
I got 4 more months and I hang up my boots for good, after 43 years I think iv seen it all out there.
But Im glad it’s almost over.
Truck em safe..Happy Trails
JT,
Thank you for the compliment.
Was reading yours also. My Dad had a Cracker Box, Emoryville, Cherry Picker,and a Freightliner before they ever made a conventional (I think 76). When I grew up I wanted one of the first three, still do, just missed a Cracker Box by a couple days. Remember the G Model Mack, looked like a KW and PACCAR shut that truck down.
I got 4 years to go then I will do what I did before I started trucking. Maybe before4 years. Building Harleys Pan Heads, Flat Heads and Shovel Heads. Should have stayed at it I had a good rep, built fast bikes. Know nothing about the new bikes do not care too know. Have all the equipment to to do the old bikes.
Much Happiness In Your Retirement, Happy Motoring..!!
Kevin
That is why WE as drivers “”need to”” try harder to get others on board & that this *Me, Myself, I don’t need you* mentality IS BAD out here!! We are a *separate* nation in a sense due to we live amongst only ourselves & do not get to be in regular society much!
I do realize that there are TOO many people that come out here & TRY to be an *island to themselves* but in the long run – they NEED us if they are going to survive the long haul! I have talked to MANY older drivers that, for the most part, that are choosing to STAY AWAY from the ‘nay sayers & uneducated’ because they feel it will take TOO MUCH of their time & they want to worry about ONLY themselves. Sorry – if we as drivers CHOOSE this then WE are as guilty as the other “hard-heads” that are mucking up this Industry cause IT WILL eventually kill your job too!!
Just turn the damned radio off, i carried for years until i started running Canada every week. I ran produce back in the day and went to all the rough markets all across the country. I had a single shot 12 gage sawed off with the numbers filed off. if i ever needed to use it i would have broken it down into 3 pieces and thrown them away miles apart
fcc needs to listen in on west memphis ark POLICE that break all possible regulations every day with their B/S cb drug sales, 24/7, about every minute, tying up the airwaves non stop,,,got the hard rock, the good green, b/s……
Well here in Washington State, Olympia the cb is full of hate and discontent. People here do take what’s said on the radio very seriously! In fact they will go out of their way to cut your coax cable, do burn outs in your drive way, break into vacant houses to plant an rf bomb, stalking , make death threats, drive bys and will show up to your house and try to pull a gun on you! Also these people will dig information up on you using the internet and will call your work and try to get you fired! All this because they want to talk $#!t about people, and when someone retaliates, as one loser would say “the war is on”! One famous spot these people go to is, Tumwater Hill or Capital Peak to do their hatred talk on the radio. But there’s alot of the local base station operators that are involved in the conspiracy to threaten people that use the cb radio. The ones that talk alot of hate are the ones that are on the radio everyday. And now pot is legal here, and these freaks that police the cb radio band, they think they can control the air waves! Remember that the cb radio is no longer a hobby, it’s now a lifestyle here in the Olympia town!!!!
Watch your Back !
As a truck driver and going through washington state, olympia I’m shocked to hear the threats and trash talk. There’s this one guy I think he goes by the handle bambi or woman beater? Pretty appropriate for the things he says about people and the threats he makes. It sad that marijuana is legal here in this state cause it gives them fuel to terrorize the air waves with their death threats and trash talk. It’s also sad that the fcc hasn’t or won’t do anything about it. But whom am I to say anything, after all I’m a truck driver and just turn the cb radio off when I roll through olympia washington.