Now that the long-awaited Hours of Service (HOS) reforms have been proposed, federal regulators are looking for feedback. And as our comments section proves, truckers have plenty to say on the subject.
After months of delays, the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration (FMCSA) has finally published the proposed rule reforming HOS regulations. They are requesting comment from the public. The comment period will be open until October 7th, but truckers aren’t wasting any time. So far 148 comments have already been submitted. You can comment on the proposed rule here.
There are 5 proposed changes in the rule.
- Extends the maximum allowed on-duty period for short haul drivers from 12 hours to 14 hours. Also extends the radius to qualify for the short-haul exemption from 100 to 150 air miles.
- Extends maximum “driving window” allowed during adverse driving conditions by an additional 2 hours.
- Changes the rules surrounding the 30-minute rest break. The 30-minute break would only be required when a trucker has driven for 8 hours without at least a 30-minute break from driving. Also, a 30-minute break can be satisfied using non-driving on-duty time rather than only non-driving off-duty time.
- Allows a split sleeper schedule of 7/3. This minor change does not alter the number of total hours a driver is required to spend on their rest period.
- The “split-duty provision” adds a “pause” button for the 14-hour clock of between 30 minutes and 3 hours. That time would not count towards a driver’s 14-hour driving window. If a driver decides to make use of it however, they will need to spend at least 10 consecutive hours off duty at the end of their work shift.
Make your voice heard by commenting on the rule on the Federal Register website.
Source: FMCSA, truckersreport, gobytrucknews, overdrive, fleetowner, overdrive
Michael Klingensmith says
I think that’s fantastic now if we could just do something about these 19 and 20-year-olds that want to drive over the road if they’re responsible enough to spend $11,000 to get an education and I obtain a CDL they should be allowed to travel
Mike C. says
let them get the experience first . I’m talking about winter driving . What happens if they are going down this Mtn with a ledge on one side and a drop off on the other, the road is shear ice and winding all the way to the bottom . All of a sudden you come upon a school bus completely accross both lanes . WHAT DO YOU DO ?
Mike C. says
You wake up Old Leroy in the bunk because he has never seen an accident like the one you about to have .
David Moore says
Right lol
Zion Gatez says
Lol !!!
Roy A Drumm says
Lmao.
I know that story…
Gerald says
Pray……that i made the decision not to travel that dangerous pass…jus sayn…been on many roads over the years that shudnt have….thankful that no incidents
Zion Gatez says
Inclement weather requires me to get to safety. Should I perish as a result of poor decision making the company’s insurance will provide for another truck , they will hire another diesel dummy and that load can be replaced or substituted.
Dan says
Wake up my co-driver… he’s a rookie and never saw a wreck like what’s about to happen
JASON WELCH says
Sounds like the big carriers will win with these proposals..not good for company drivers….
Mike says
School bus on a mountain lolback in the day before the government figured out they could rip us off with this license I applied drove the truck hired with no CDL ITS ABOUT TIME THE GOVERNMENT WENT AFTER THE DRIVERS WHO CAN EVEN DRIVE A CAR!!!!!
Michael A Tyson says
What would you suggest
ken hagar says
Much better.
Jim Krugh says
Truck driving doesn’t run on a 14 clock. Need to get rid of either elogs or go back to old rules,they were not broke should not have tried to fix them. 14 hour rules and elogs don’t work together
Ernest Lempfert says
Ya ok that’s gonna help drivers there falling asleep know here why don’t we just let the company dictate the rules and we can work 20 hours on and no rule’s at all everything is how the company makes more off the back’s of the driver
Byron says
I feel that we should be able to stop the 14 hour clock, for as long as need for the driver. Case & point when going through major city’s that are known for heavy traffic, driver should be able to stop 14 hr for longer then the proposed time. Having a alert driver on the hwy is much better then having a fatigue driver. Also FMCSA should regulate the shipper and the receiver especially in the refrigeration warehouse to get truck in and out within 2hrs after the schedule appt time max’s. As a driver I would love to be able to stop my 14hr clock for as long as I need, without interfering with any other duty time.
Darrell Snobl says
I don’t see that this changed anything for the better, just confused things a little more. As far as the statement that truckers talked and we listened, not really. To much for this smalk space, but if you haven’t been a real trucker, you haven’t got a clue. I want and am safe, I also have a famy to get home to.
Jughead says
Fmcsa = joke of the day
Semi Crazy says
It’s getting to freaky.
Divide by 2 , carry the 6 , add 1 then minis 4 .
23 years in safely . Take it or leave it .
What regulation are on 4whrelers that don’t really comprehend the machine and mankind concept that’s fun and extremely dangerous as well.
Tapping out of the biz.
Automatics , yeah ! Trucks aren’t made to be made automatically easy.
Did my part , seen to many changes for the worst . Thankless job .
Rich get richer…
Ffffaaaarrrrrtttttt…
Henry Joseph Skedel says
Get rid of the 30 min break it does not accomplish anything as far as a safety factor.If u have to take it to early due to delivery u end up taking 2 half hour breaks,get people in our government who actually know something about this industry not just a pencil pushed n a yes man to collect a paycheck
Lloyd Henry Smith says
Just go back to the 10 hour. That way drivers can run the load the way they see fit. All of the accidents and no parking is do to the 14 hour rule. The hours of service as it is now is killing people and holding drivers back.
JR says
Love it Mike
Patrick Hinkle says
I think the new rules are perfect it will help us all be safer
H D says
So you need government rules to be safer hmmm does your head hurt when you thought if this?
Joseph Scott Hahn says
Good one
David Kincaid says
I bought my first truck in 1974, a time that I believe that the highways were safer then they are now for the simple reason that’s a driver could simply take a nap when he needed to without fear of the federal proctologist! A time when I driver could simply suspend his driving window on paper. How many deaths is the FMCSA responsible for in foolishly believing that all truck drivers are created equal?! Driver A may be perfectly fine while driver B needs to take a nap, but since the HOS is inflexible, he falls asleep at the wheel and kills himself and a few others besides. .. but at least they are all LEGALLY dead! Before the electronic eld mandate, I would not see nearly the number of semis driven off the road at night as I do today. so why are we not talking about suspending the hours of service to allow for a 3 hour nap?!
John says
If your sleepy . You should pull over and sleep. Not try to navigate 40 tons of metal down the highway. This is common sense.
Roger jones says
Right on.
Jeffrey McMaster says
Personally, I would have liked the recap provisions to have been removed or at least reworked so drivers don’t get dinged for a bad week again because of the recap.
Matt Robertson says
They can shove that right back up the hole it came out of! What was the point; really?
No One The Plumber says
The link doesn’t lead to a place to leave a comment. It goes to the regulation page where you can take a survey about the website’s layout.
The FMCSA is now, and always has been, a useless tool.
They serve no function beyond control and safety and security are words used to manipulate fools into acquiescing to feigned authority.
Nothing they do keeps anyone safe. That’s an impossible task. It’s the moron’s job to accept responsibility for his or her self, which they rarely do, hence ‘moron’.
The FMCSA is there to control.
And is run by monkeys who’ve never done the job.
All the DOT and FMCSA monkeys are useless. Trucking can be done with out them the same way people manage to move cars around the interstate network.
This whole racket is a scam.
The function of the control system is because we’re literally the backbone of our economy in the U.S.; control trucking, control the economy.
But telling most humans, let alone Americans (who’re particularly delusional, conditioned and typically incredibly stupid when it comes to research, logic or reasoning) the reality of their situation is moot.
They’ll never listen to you, and if they hear what you tell them, even when completely verifiable, they’ll launch an ad hominem attack at you for trying to help them.
So I say, let it burn.
Joseph Scott Hahn says
I’m with you trucker, if you haven’t done it don’t tell me how to do it.
Keith says
That’s right.
David Hostetler says
Do away with logbooks. completely. Who the hell do they think they are to tell me when I can drive & when I cant drive.
Jeff says
I agree 100% I know when I’m tired and when I’m not that’s why I said do away with a 30 min break completely
Aruba Runner says
I also agree. No 30 min break needed unless i say so. Just need a 14 hour drive clock. When its up your done. No 11hr. No 30 mins no off duty. No on duty. 1 clock.
Terry Mason says
I agree totally! The 30 min. Break is not needed at all.
Jake says
Make a definite divide between long haul, LTL and groceries. Delivery guys running carts NEED recovery time, OTR drivers may be able to drive longer without becoming exhausted. An honest conversation about the types of commercial drivers is what’s needed not this lumping of everyone together weak approach to regulating truckers.
Rolando De Jesu Garcia says
You’re right 👍
JR says
HOS have been around since 1938, your delusional to think that will ever go away
It’s a negotiation, we win some and we lose some, just hope we win more
Ronald Pembelton says
Do away with the 14 hour box rule. Go back to a 8 hour break period because most of us are ready to go after 8 but have to wait for the 10, by then you’re aggravated and that tires you.
Jeff says
I’m leaving my two cents in and first off the 30 minute break needs to be done away with completely we done fine without it for years Until the Obama administration came aboard and started to drowning us with restrictions we also need to go to seven day 70 hours instead of eight day 70 hours. And speak English when you put stuff for regulations listed above what does 7/3 means I don’t know let us know exactly instead of hiding snakes in the grass and then giving us citations because we violated but that’s the government way I forgot.
Lick my ass says
Instead of a pause button, just get rid of the 14 hour rule all together; will be easier for the driver that way
Joshua L Weiser says
30 minute break needs too go away period last time I was mandated too take a 30 minute break was when I was a minor after getting a work permit. I am sick of government treating us grown ups as a child. Split sleeper birth should be 5 and 5 since we are being forced too take a break as if we are children
Keith says
I like to call them “slave rules”, and one size fits all, according to Big Brother.
Donna Tackett says
Go back to 5/5 split sleeper! You have teams that are exhausted trying to sleep going down the road! It’s not only solos out there!!
Allan W Lerfald says
In a sleeper team operation, the co-driver has a mandatory 10 hour off duty rest period after driving their shift of 10 hours. That requires the second driver to at least drive 10 hours before being relieved by the co-driver who has spent 10 hours in sleeper bunk. In either case, when on a long run of several days, both drivers have been on and off their 10 hours several times. What if either driver gets so exhausted they cannot drive safely, but must keep going because the sleeper bunk will only hold one person? The rotating shift for sleeper team driving would make more sense if they could go back to the old way of 4 hours driving, 4 hours sleeper bunk; or something like 6 hours driving, 6 hours sleeper bunk. 10 or 11 hours rotating with a co-driver is very exhausting.
Manuel Perez says
Put someone in office that actually been driving a truck so you can decide how you want me to drive my truck when you think I’m tired when I’m stuck at docks when I cant find parking since I cant make up my mind because I’m limited on time to drive the ones that use eld should be the ones with the most accidents or tickets
Don conran says
Manuel. You are 100 percent right. We need people in office with real road experience
They need a degree in the school of real otr driving.
Don conran says
10 hours. Asleep is ridiculous. 6 hours is enough for me unless I am on vacation
kleveland kid says
Let us not forget that the hours of service protect us and the public from our very own employers.
Trokerito says
Quit driving for them , then.
J. Miller says
Yes I think the 30 minute break is waste of time, I know when I tired are not thank. JRM.
Benigno Ramos says
Ben Ramos
We are getting a little slack, but not much. However I’ll take it, it’s better than it was!🚛🙂
Damir Alic says
The e-logs protect drivers doing local runs. If it was up to employers the driver would be on duty 20hrs, just to cover up for lack of drivers or company not wanting to hire to save money.
Gary McQueen says
I agree I think if you don’t and have never driven a truck you should not be telling us how to drive the truck you even have police officers and. Officers they have a second job they’re allowed to make more money you’re limiting what we can make Woody’s hours I know when I’m tired and I know what I’m not and is one of these shippers anymore will hold you in the dark 5 6 7 hours and if your clocks running that goes against your driving time so that limits me to be able to go get another load it makes it hard for the driver to make a living also I think they had to do away with his pay depart crap cuz that’s what’s hurting I like guys they’re running out of hours they pull into a truck stop and they can’t park anywhere because the locks full and their company does not pay for parking you’re taking the money out of the driver’s Pockets but the taxes and the fuel keeps going up I just think if you’ve never driven a truck you shouldn’t be making laws about it list some of these guys making laws be 30 minutes from home and have to take a 10-hour break and you’ve been gone for 3 months that’s why a lot of these older drivers aren’t renewing their CDLs and there so many driving jobs open nobody wants to pay but they want to keep the driver out forever and ever and ever
Joseph Scott Hahn says
I’m with you trucker, if you haven’t done it don’t tell me how to do it. Damn true trucker
Joe DLG says
People know when they are tired, and know when to rest. There would not be any delays if they got rid of the log book…and plus let us drive stop pulling us over for 5 hours at the weigh stations
Bobby Jones says
Why why why does everything have to be politicized? The lobbyists are simply taking food/money out of the owner-op’s mouth and putting it in their own pocket with these worthless elds. Accidents have increased with the use of them because drivers feel they have to drive instead of resting.
Keith Wood says
Yep because when you’re are actually tired because have been stuck in traffic all day or delayed for other numerous reasons you have to keep moving because if you pull over to rest it will go against your time and force you to take your 10 hrs at the wrong time which means you’re stuck pulling over in less than ideal places ,missing appointments ,missing loads and losing money or shutting down 10 to 20 miles from your destination or home.So you have no choice but to risk driving tired and hope you can make it to your destination
Mark rogers says
Doesn’t appear much is changing in our favor, we could drive 8 hrs before the 30 minute break to begin with. Do away with it altogether. Less governing, more driver control!
James Cole says
Do away with the 30 minute break entirely. If you’re so concerned with fatigue, don’t force an extra 30 minutes to our day!
Steve says
Anytime Government Gets Involved,Costs Double And So does the Stupidity coming from it. Y’all a waste of Good People’s Time And Money.
Johnnie says
Take away the 30 min rule. Also you don’t want to make our day any longer than it already is. The dangers and stress 11 hrs a day is enough. Shippers and receivers should be regulated to where they are not taking up so much of our time thus leaving us to run more miles and provide for our family.
Michael kelly says
I think big carriers are working with government, to slow down trucking Industry. So big carriers flood market with cheap labor. Drive out real truckers. Follow the money, who profits from this mess. Not little man. I vote for strike.
Joseph Scott Hahn says
I’m in at any time but we have to stop the company drivers from moving
Patrick Conley says
I agree…if we want results, a strike will get them!
Dave Stelk says
They need to totally do away with the 30 minute break, it is so not needed… And it all came about because of a few careless driver’s,that ruin it for all the driver’s that do their job legal and safe…
Daniel says
Omg what’s it going to take? Clearly these morons in government don’t know what the hell they are doing none of the 5 proposals they have make any damn sense. Why don’t you morons put someone in there that has been behind the wheel of the truck to make the rules. Clearly y’all can’t do your jobs right and keep screwing up the hours of service be prepared You think there is a driver shortage now? keep screwing with the hours of service and you will have more then just a driver shortage. Why don’t y’all just do away with the damn logbooks all together and stop dictating on how drivers need to drive. You can put all the rules on the books you want but there will always but stupid and ignorant drivers out there and there will always be wrecks no matter how many laws u write . Why don’t y’all go back and look at all the laws u have written none of them make sense drivers are getting fed up with this HOS changes. when I first got into trucking I loved this job now it’s nothing but a damn nightmare looks like I’m handing my license over and getting out of this industry cause morons in government can’t do their job and if they can’t do their job then I can’t do my
Robin says
Totally agree with you. I have not driven for several years however I still have an active CDL with a TWIC card and to be honest, I miss it sometimes and then I hear about all the new stupid laws and regulations and “stings” and basically being treated like children in addition to every two years when I renew my medical card, I’m always scared that they’re going to find some stupid little thing like my neck is too thick or something.
My last job was a dedicated route at night and there were times that I would be tired and I had enough sense to pull over at a safe location and set my alarm for 30 minutes and take a nap.
And there was times especially during the summer where I’d have a flat tire in the middle of nowhere and it would take forever for the truck to come out to change the tire and now I’m racing the 14 hour clock (in a day cab) and had to park it at a rest area 15 minutes away from the terminal.
If they made any changes at all… I would like to see them get rid of the 14-hour rule, keep the 11-hour rule, however, it can take two days to drive 11 hours and then once you reach 11 hours, then take the required 10-hour break. Also, keep the 34-hour restart provision
Maybe I’m being oversimplistic but maybe that’s exactly what we need to go back to.
Guy says
Think about it. Start the shift,you got 14 hours,11 hours driving,can’t do because violation. Can’t stop it got to squeeze out all you can. Drug up due to shipper,receiver,dispatcher, still ticking. Work 14 hours for 7or8 hours of pay not to mention having to stop short to be sure to have a legal parking spot??? It goes on n on n on…… Trucking is absolute bullcrap at best now. It’s very unsafe,very over controlled,and ca scores n points on your license….. You can follow the law and still get written up. Idiots running through parking lots at 30mph,going around someone backing into parking ect…. I could go on for a time but the law is the law right. Does stupidity and socialism ring any bells??? Always figuring new ways to write more tickets. Truckers with them illegal headlights,fog lights,adjusted just for your eyesight. They really need a good thumping. Ect…….
Tim D Horton says
These rule changes are a waste of time. Fix the problem and quit wasting time.
Robert says
I like most of the changes, especially the one that pauses the 14. Stuck at a shipper or receiver they run us out of hours and then run us off property. This will help. For those that say it’s unsafe, I sleep when I’m docked. With current rules it doesn’t mean much but 3 hours of sleep helps a lot sometimes.
Frank Sheridan says
Hello I’m joe driver with 31 yrs in this industry..the fmcsa has been working hard again trying to change hours of service.
Please keep in mind
(Again there is only 24hrs. In a day) extending the 100 miles to 150 miles I can agree with along with changing the adverse weather conditions rule is a good thing and positive move.
However extending drivers day on duty time or extending drive time would be a dire mistake…! ON A DALY BASIS.
We are people who have family along with the people we share the roads with
WE ALL LIKE TO GO HOME TO OUR FAMILIES Along with the very same people who we share the roads with
Extending our work day is a HUGE Mistake …!
Remember we go up and down the road not the CEO’s of the big companies. This type of work which takes a (tremendous amount of focus and concentration .)
With this being said i would like to see some of these law makers, CEO’s go up and down the road and be safe and not kill no one including themselves…
How many times has the fmcsa try changing ‘HOS.???
Our roads are not getting better by any means they only continue to grow smaller as we continue to grow by the numbers ..
What is wrong with FMCSA..???
Or is this the work of some Corporate Executives trying to change the rules again…??
For safer roads and the safety of our people who we share the roads with we must continue to keep our existing laws in place with only minor changes and NOT Extending our HOS never mind some big corporate CEO changing the way we live
Please Keep In Mind we are people not machines we go up and down the road with 80,000lbs …!
THANK YOU…!
Cory says
Need to get rid of politicians that have never worked a day in their life and don’t have to worry about paying bills they don’t live in the real world. The government needs to quit subsidized the big trucking companies that put steering wheel holders in their trucks need to go back to more owner operators that are real truck drivers. The government needs to butt out and quit telling me when I’m tired and when I need rest I can figure that out on my own.
Sandra Hudson says
I don’t drive. What I do is manuever the maze of paperwork that the FMCSA requires to become an owner operator for people that want to drive for themselves under their own authority. I am interested in the comments about HOS and in reading them, I find that 90% of the comments are about non-drivers making laws that have no clue about being on the road.
What I see is truckers putting experienced truck drivers on these law making boards and committees, so changes can be put in play that actually reflect the well being of the OTR driver. It will be a fight but it levels up the playing field, because now you guys have positioned yourself to make decisions that count. It becomes an inside job. Truckers drive the American economy! If OTR’s stop-not even the company drivers can keep up with the demand. So why not fight smarter-not harder?
Trucking is a pawn on a political chess board, but this is your families future. Know this as a fact: TRUCKING INDUSTRY IS A MAJOR PLAYER IN THE AMERICAN ECONOMY.
Collectively ask yourself what are WE willing to do to protect OUR lifestyle? Whine and fill out comments and the end of articles?, under the guise that your comments will be taken into consideration. Or put your big girl and big boy drawers on and do something about the situation. Time out. Thanks for reading this, it’s just a thought, not a solution and it’s alright to disagree with me.
William Fugitt says
Take the log book and revise it,take the skirts out of office and install retired drivers,who understand all in too well what dates,times,windows are all about! Take every federal lic.andgive them fed.penilitys for abusing the law not give them more!I,ve been an 0/0 since starting driving in1974,aft the military and i still love most of it today not a beat down on trucks but all drivers!.Any one with any common sence knows if you revise 1part you do them all ,and make the shot callers earn thier money,but then agsin thats whats wrong with our gr8 nation of today,every body wantd to get payed but nobody wants to work for it !
MrYowler says
Get out of the log business. Get back in the fair wage and employment business. Make them pay us by the hour from the time we clock in to the time we leave. Make ’em pay time and a half over 8 hours. They’ll quickly learn to run relays and not overwork us, because they’ll have to pay to do so. Insurance companies will penalize them for running us long hours, and the improved employment conditions and wages will attract more people to become drivers… at least until automation runs us all off. This is a Republican executive branch, right? Well, give us the same wage and employment protections as everyone else, and let the market decide. That’s the Republican way, is it not?
Ronny Caddell says
I be driving 35 years been a driver trainer for 7 years need to go back like it was 25 years ago run 11 hrs total 14hrs on duty anytime you stop During that 14 hours shift have a 3hr Minimum You’re time stop your 14 clock that way you can stop get a shower eat clean up then continue on with your 14hr clock and you 10 are driving that way everybody can stop to eat that way They’re not pressured for time they get up 3 hour window that way to be a lot more safer driver. The way it is now always fighting the clock all day
Can’t afford to stop to eat and take a break eat so that can make There appointments. Just asking I 3 hour minimum that way everybody can get to rest clean up take a shower then Continue on their14 or 11 hour drive-in that way they don’t lose anything on the o’clock and everybody will be happy in a lot safer driver.
Jorge Jimenez says
I can drive way more than 11 hrs but there’s a small percentage of drivers that have that driving stamina. I believe we should be able to drive as much as we can within that 14 hr window but of coarse, for those who can. We do need a truck driver in office,one who was once a road warrior. We need cameras to protect us from the 4 wheelers on the road as well.
Doug Winchell says
Sounds better than the way it presently is. With one exception, the 30 minute break rule. Eliminate the 30 minute break and I’m good with the new proposal.
Robert Blakeney Dee Blakeney says
First of all do away with. D o t second of all I say Drive 13 hours a day and take 11 hour break. Don’t need a 30 minute break and bring back the log books
Jim Bryant says
None of the rules are to help the driver. It mostly helps the shippers and the receivers. The 30 minute break is worthless also. The pausing on the hours still allows the shippers and receivers to leave you stuck at the dock for hours. I see nothing good about that. It will give you a 17 hour day instead of 14. They need to get people that are actually living the life to input instead of paper pushers that have no clue.
MARK LANGENFELDER says
It’s time the federal government gets its hands out of my wallet. 16 hour work day, 14 hour drive clock and get rid of the break clock. I break when I need to break. The way it is now, if I don’t drive 6 hours before I take a 30, I have to take another later in my shift. Also time off when a shipper holds me up getting loaded and unloaded. How about minimum wage for every hour we live in the trucks away from home. We need more parking with bathrooms. I refuse to park on the side of the road like a piece of garbage when truck stops are full even if I am out of time. A safe haven is just that.
Justin Beach says
Do away with the 30 minute break completely, or allow it to be taken in increments over the 8 hours. For example, 3 – 10 minute breaks.
10 hour rest is ridiculous. Should be 8 hours max.
Rick whiting says
The HOS needs to be left alone
What needs to happen is that the customers are leaving trucks sitting at the dock for hours then the next thing is that your out of clock. 14 hr drive is good and if you get tired pull over and take a break the rules
Book is thicker than the Bible and it shouldn’t be like that because it’s forcing drivers out of the business one last thing is that no driver will sleep 10 hrs so 8 hrs in the sleeper is good enough
Brian says
This is about the best comment I read. I would add that shippers and receivers hands are tied alot. They have lines, they have mandatory lunch times, they have limited shifts, etc. They are usually doing what they can for us. This is where the government doesn’t get it. We lose time through no fault of our own. Stop the clock completely when we are in that situation. Let our day go from 14 to 16 and driving from 11 to 13 when our log shows we have just been sitting 2 hours.
Frank Sheridan says
OMG This is not the fmcsa at work again trying to change the rules …!
This must be a corporate CEO doing the prospal not the fmcsa..
(There are only 24 hours in a day) how do expect the people”the drivers stay focus and there attention stay SHARP…?
As soon as the trucking industry gets hold of extending the on duty and driving status to where a driver has exactly 10 hours to sleep eat shower and there personal care time by extending there work day.
There be little concentration lot more accidents many more innocent people getting killed..!
OUR ROADS BY ANY MEANS HAVE NOT GROWN BY SIZE WE HAVE GROWN BY THE NUMBERS..
with this being said this is a perfect recipe for more accidents and more innocent people getting KILLED
I would like to see any CEO lawmakers stay focused have the same concentration by extending our HOS without getting themselves and the people we share the roads with killed..
80,000lbs is a lot of weight..!
Harbinder Singh Khosa says
In my opinion there should be no logs kept but just the milage log. The driver should be allowed only a set number of milage i.e 700-730 Mile a day with no time limit. The logs have bad effects on drivers as when the log asks drivers to drive they need sleep at that time and when they can’t sleep they are forced to sleep.
Anyone not abiding by the milage rule should be supposed to pay hafthy amount of money on the spot. I can bit that it will reduce the accidents and misshaps due to the tiredness of the drivers.
Ed says
We can twist the HOS all we want for convenience to do business with the brokers that might help a bit with satisfying the customers(who most don’t even know exactly what is ELD or FMCSR, who some don’t even care, etc.) but it does(for now somewhat) and should come down to protecting the drivers as well as the pay PER HOUR regardless because if it don’t pay the $ it ain’t worth it.
*IN GOD WE TRUST
* God Bless America
Harun says
What about drivers deciding their destiny instead of “professionals”. It is really really bad out here in tricking business with these 100 and 1 rules to follow with a rate of not close to $2 a mile. Give me 11hrs to drive once I log on and even if I take 7days, my drive time still remain till I hit that 11hrs then take rest.
Simply take away hos. Let us work and push for better pay for loads.
Bill Varnadoe says
I have been driving for over 42 years now, and have had to lower my standards of OTR driving to run short haul… I started in the 70’s, a older trucker told me when you get tired, get some sleep, you wake up, get going ( running OTR on e-logs SUCKS)
Frank Sheridan says
HOS are at the slaughter table again this will result in more deaths on our highways more sadness to our families dinner tables, Not only the drivers for the people we share the roads with..
This is silly this must be a corporate CEO doing the proposal this only benefits the shippers and trucking companies alike not drivers.
BJ says
I think the 30 min break should only apply if you have been driving for 8 straight hours without stopping I drive locally so I’m in and out of the truck 20 times a day I don’t need a 30 minute break all it does is get me home 30 minutes later than I would have got home
Dylan says
I think the rules need to be changed. Sometimes I don’t need a break. The government wants to blame the truckers for wrecks but most of the time it’s the idiot 4 wheelers.
Younus Chowhan says
OTR and REGIONAL sole driver must not drive between 10 PM to 6 AM.
Driver who like to drive at night must take endorsement from DMV that will not allow day pride driving. Keep superman under control-company might stop forcing driver to run regardless of enough sleep.
All the rules are perfect.
Disorder sleeping causing brain damage
kleveland kid says
I mostly agree. Drivers should not be forced to disrupt their sleep cycles by alternating day and night driving.
Trokerito says
FMCSA eliminate ELD once for all!!!
You want to do something useful with the money you get from us ?
Make sure the truck drivers are paid for what is fair. Make sure CEOs don’t steal from drivers . Make sure that shippers / receivers do their job more efficiently. Take off the road trucks that are Unsafe. If you closed a business, don’t allow them to change names and continue in this industry.
Check fuel pumps for right measurement and published and closed if they are stealing from us .
Do something useful and help this industry for real.
JP says
I agree 100%
Charly says
All this laws sock
Go back to 5 and 5
And live drivers Alon
Whit that stupid eld and
Put it on your lower back
I said so
James F Neubauer says
So tired of double standards for police and fire working two jobs, 1st responders can work 16 hrs a day, 7 days a week for police who carry guns and need all there wit when responding to possible life and death responses. Truck drivers 10 hours have to take sleep time off ? No gun or life and death issues and if you own your truck, your profit margin is 5%, but police and fire are not, ,fire station has BMW’s, Audi’s parked there. Look in a truck depot and you think it’s a pick-a-part facility. If firemen can work 24 on, sleep paid at there hourly rate and then be off for 48 hrs, should be the same for truckers, oh ya and full retirement and go out to find another job without any pension penalty
georeg says
you are getting just what u voted for.WHOM appoints these leaders?CHOWIE.
Sam says
When they decide to put elog they said safety.
But I don’t think so b/c they push driver to drive 8 hours to take a break or 3 hours rest break if the driver tired he have to take a break. And we have student they never drive a truck full 8 hour’s driving. Did u think this is a safety. If I’m tired any time u have to aprove me to use my 3 hours to take a nap.
This peoples I don’t think they created rule for American driver or safety problem.
The rule It’s not help for the safety or the driver. May be they work for another country or they have another plan behind it or…. I don’t know
May be they never drive a truck before
Dale A Gunter says
I have been a long haul owner-operator for the last 40 years. Having to switch to the ELD has made me feel very unsafe. I am constantly trying to make intelligent decissions while staring at that simple clock. With all the unexpected situations I deal with everyday, that clock takes my attention off of my driving. Parking is another joke, trucks are parked everywhere….as there is NOT ENOUGH parking, so they are unsafely on ramps or where ever they can “make a spot”. The 70 hours is 8 days also needs to be added to. I am out here to work and make a living, and I can’t tell you how much money I have lost due to not having an extra couple of hours to unload my load, before having to stop for 34 plus hours, as it affects when you can unload or reload due to the shippers hours. The changes you are making is NOT enough, please consider more. Thank you.
David Brooks says
Go back to original logging from the beginning. Who needs more than 8 hrs of sleep a day? Get up and drive up to 10 hrs, sleep 8 and back at it! It made for people changing schedules each day, parking was better without everyone just sleeping at night.
Kevin Toner says
They Suck. Nobody needs 10 hours of sleep a night. Amazing how people that have no idea about a truck can make the rules.
Mike says
Looks to me like we are going backwards . So safety isn’t an issue anymore? It’s all about running us more hours to cover the driver shortage. I personally like having somewhat of a life besides living in a truck. This is going to keep new drivers away from trucking.
kleveland kid says
Most of us know there is no driver shortage. Is all about running us more hours to cover their incompetence!
JP says
I think instead of wasting time. Creating stupid rules for truckers. They should create more rules for brokers and dispachers, who take a big portion of the price of loads . without doing anything. The truck drivers work hard and nobody creates a rule in their favor. for example here in RI the governor is circulating the state with tolls only for truck drivers.
Bigbadassbob says
Long gone are the days of when yellow jackets were truckers vitamins, no elogs, professional and courteous drivers. Now the smell of fromunda is the new cologne, bad mustaches, nike sweat pants and sandals.
Panzo says
I think it should be 15 yours on duty and driving combined, plus 1hr mandatory break and 8 hours off-duty. This will remove the need for multiple confusing regulations and will give drivers plainty of time to get most of our work done without stressing about breaking any law while remaining safe.
Laidback says
You need to get away for the 14 hour it’s been a problem with safety for the day it was started
Dorothy Colbert says
I have said this and mention this federal motor Carrier . In email. I and average person work 7 a day . Why would you compel a driver to have a 14 hour window? That is not safe. And with the danger lurking around a truck the way cars drive. To be able to expand it is wonderful.
tommylynn Fortner says
I like the pause for the 14hr clock it will help. Plus they need to rid of the 30min break because I stop and walk my dog way before my 8 hr & they need to get on to the shippers & receivers to get in & out in 2 hrs not 4or5
C Kevin Yates says
There was nothing wrong with the hours of service before. So why are you trying to fix something that’s not broken to begin with. All you guys do is push a pencil behind the desk. You have no clue what’s it’s like out here. Walk a mile in our shoes.
Kenny says
Isn’t it ironical how now I run local where I don’t have to worry about my clock running out because of how short my day is.
I’m always cruising below the speed limit…not bothered about cars cutting me off because I just let them all go. I have a lot of patience and have realized a drastic improvement in my driving.
When I was otr it was a whole different thing…I was a jet…couldn’t slow down for shit because of how much I wanted to get out of the clock…I had no patience and would just cuss and throw a fit at anyone who gets in my way.
I say just remove the 14 altogether but keep the elog but just try to create it in a way where drivers get enough rest and don’t drive for so many consecutive hours.
This job requires full flexibility, from my personal observation of myself and other drivers, as long as there is the 14 including the adjustments y’all made to it…the roads will forever become a more dangerous place to be on.
The current and amended set up does not make the roads safer…it makes everything more dangerous and unsafe for a FACT!!!
Art Ross says
I think all elds should have sensors or forward cameras detecting speeds so truckers are caught speeding through construction sites and going through cities. Maybe self imposed fines would stop some of the truck crashes everyday
Dan says
I think all vehicles should have sensors that slap you happy with the airbag when you do stupid crap near a truck or can’t maintain your lane
Deshea Hickson says
Amazing how a room full of non.truck drivers can set rules, with the help of BIG TRUCKING COMPANIES, to set forth rules that does not make sense. Amazing when FEMA, need trucks to run all out CRAZY, to help assist in disaster areas, we can run as many miles, as needed. All these rules, cause confusion and allow DOT POLICE TO WRITE MORE TICKETS, then claim public safety. Truckers, OWNER OPERATORS ESPECIALLY, should be allowed 14 hr work days, PERIOD, 10 HR REST, HOWEVER YOU CHOOSE TO run your 14hrs, driving, loading, etc. 14 hr work days in 5 days. Reset 2 days. KEEP IT SIMPLE AND ALLOW TRUCKERS TO MAKE A DECENT LIVING. STOP CLAIMING IT’S ABOUT SAFETY when it’s really about MONEY.
Linda says
It should a law that any one making and changing laws o. Truckers need to either have been a drive for at least tens or ride with a real driver, that has been though the best and worst of all the rule changes, not someone that has no idea of what and the hell is going on in the real world, in the the trucking industry, a drive should be able to sleep when he wants drive when he is ready, not letting some nitwit telling a driver when he has to stop or sleep, or drive, I drove for 32 years, driver are not what they was years ago, now 75 percent are not real truck drivers, so sick of the way the big wig set on there butts and not getting out and talking to the real drivers, not these big ass companies that hire anyone the walks in, and 2 weeks there drive that don’t know crap, I really feel for the real drivers that know better, when drivers, where king of the road, not now to many no driving drivers
John says
Need to go back to the old school ways thanks for more safer everything was on paper log
Mike Peel says
Stop co from being the trainer andthe one who can approve them for a cdl we all know who these cos are and these are the same ones who are involved in most of the accidents no insurance co will cover them so they become self insured everybody needs to go to a school and be tested by a state examiner stop the hours of service instead of hours driven use total miles a day this would eliminate the 34 hr rule
Michael says
The government just wants control. It will not get better as long as that is allowed. Why I quit. Cause he won’t track my
Every move. This country use to be about freedom. Not now.
Greg Crewe says
Not as good as the old days (been driving since 1977)but it’s better than it was, drivers should have control of when and how they operate, if someone abuses it then they should be held accountable, not the whole industry…if it’s safe to drive , I do,if not I don’t
Diane L Megonnell says
Pass truckers H.O.S. onto the rest of the population on the road. Tell them when to eat ,sleep,poop. If 8 hours in the bunk wheather 4 & 4 or straight 8 don’t provide u with enough sleep ..U SHOULD DO SOMETHING ELSE FOR A LIVING
Dan says
Agreed… you forgot drug testing
Bill Young says
The only way to fix this is to get rid of the hole things,and go back to how it was. But I know no one wants to talk about that. And the 14 hours rule was crazy in the beginning. All these people making rules for trucks and they have never drove one and probably never had a ride in one.
John says
I’ve only done long-haul for a little while wasn’t thrilled by it at all I’m local delivery but I’m putting out 14 hours a day just about every day at 30 minute break time is absolutely useless I fall under the same regulations as everybody else out there with a truck and to me when I get to a stop I’m still working you have to go to why you never get done but you got to remember to take that 30 minute break so it’s just a waste of time to have that in there when I was running over the road I did the 11 hours driving whatever it took for working and that seemed to work out fine if a driver gets tired you more likely going to stop their going to have to use the bathroom somewhere along the line it would be the only change that I would do to get rid of that 30-minute break all together
Nick West says
Wanting to extend only helps the companies work the people longer! Greed on both ends! Also, a break on duty isn’t a break it’s a joke! None of that helps the drivers other than a two hour sleep break to maybe avoid rush hour traffic! If driver takes a 30 min break b4 6th hr could possibly have to take another b4 14 hrs runs out! Make it only on 30 break for the whole 14 and let he/she to decide when to take it but never on duty!
Bert Oulicky says
The 30 min brake I do when I stop for a meal and take the dogs out for a brake that takes a hour out of my day and the brake is done get rid of the 14 clock their have been times when I have had to stop to do the 10 hour brake and have had up to 6 hours to drive reason is I unload in the morning then sit at a dock till my appointment time later in the day to load unload time 4 to 6 hours load time after in the dock 3 to 4 hours no time to restart the 14 clock and now out of hours for the day thank you 14 hour clock at 11 hours driving is as much as I can handle now that I’m older the 10 restart is ok 2 hours before bed to take a shower eat dinner and clean clothes sleep 8 hours but for me 6 hours of sleep is all I need keep the 34 restart it is ok by me it means we can get some cleaning done some extra rest if need be and then run some good miles if you are lucky to get some long miles
Roderick Lockridge says
You really do get tired from driving 6 hours.So the 30 min brk really needs to stay
William M. Pinkard says
It’s got one or two things out five that I like and the the other three rules are just away the owner’s to push the drivers more and the other two might hurt our overall driving by dispatcher and broker s ,any Shipper and Consignee.
Kelvin Ratcliff says
I don’t believe,we should try to run, a dangerous vehicle on road with out consense.The driver need rest,but should not count the time at shipper,as duty time .It should be sleeper or off duty time,bad weather ,at shipper and accident on road.We should be able to be exempt 4 hours due to to these problems ,if held up. It should not count against the log.More rest, and time at shipper should be writing down, for exemption or problems like breakdown.We able to take 4 exemption.
Jorge Valdez says
The 10 hour’s rest it becomes a droopy situation 7,8 it’s sufficient enough 2 have a good rest and the endless waste of hrs in shipper’s and receiver who counts 4 that,well good guess but no worries this so called institution 4 the truckers won’t do a thing 2 better it
Zion Gatez says
Drivers should be paid the minute they bump the dock. Phooey on a time limit for shippers and receivers. Haven’t corporations beat us up enough or are some of you brainwashed stooges toting the company line for naught ???
Dan says
And owner operators/ small companies can all pay the “driver “, right?
Wayne says
I don’t see any benefit to these rule changes.
I have been driving for 41 yrs, over 6 million miles. Give me a 14 hour day, out of 24 hours, let me decide and be highly responsible for my actions, no one else,
There are just somedays you can get right up and work and other days you can’t. LET ME make that choice not a lawmaker or an ELD tell me what I’m capable of doing.
Latoya Walker says
10-4 Driver!!! Lordy Lord
Latoya Walker says
What about maximizing TRUCK PARKING??? I’ve been trucking 11 yrs without one accidents, no tickets( many attempts) and CSA scoring is ZERO…..Due to the 14 hr rule truck stops, rest areas, picnic parking, ramps, old scale houses, every off ramp, no truck parking, no truck parking zones, fuel isle, Walmart parking lot, open fields and etc are all FILLED ILLEGALLY WITH TRUCKS PARKING. Not to mention officers are waking drivers up in the middle of their resting period asking to move truck and writing tickets. WHAT OPTIONS DO WE HAVE NOW??? We don’t get the proper rest with this happening.
Latoya Walker says
Go back to PAPER LOGS AND READING AN ATLAS!
Ron says
If we are going to have logs then: it should have two status, either you are on duty ( which includes driving ) or off duty ( which includes sleeper ). Real simple no need for 4 lines of status. As for the hours allowed: in any 24 hr period: you must have 12 hrs off duty, which gives you liberty to rest when you need it and allows you to manage your own time for on duty. Anytime you or signed on to your elog then you are paid minimum wage minus the driving time which is paid by the mileage.
sonny Pruitt says
I think it should be a little more complicated so they can write more tickets to people who can’t decipher all of the different ways to split sleeper berth and so on.
sonny Pruitt says
Watch Livingston parish officer being ridiculous video on YouTube for an example of the confusion this is causing in the real world. State police and dot can barely keep up with the changes and local law enforcement hasn’t got a clue,they’re still asking for log books when they stop a bog truck,never heard of e logs.watch the video when you have a chance, they need to scratch the word integrity off the side of his car.
JohnT says
These changes are completely tailored for the businesses to run drivers into the ground. The only provision here that is worth to look at changing is the 30-minute rest break rule. The changes that are proposed in these five proposals are to do nothing but make businesses rich and run drivers to their death all it is is forced dispatch and Driver should rally against these changes…
Kevin Lee Brown says
The hours of service are smoke and mirrors the government only wants control the trucking industry was fine for almost 100 years until the government stepped in and screwed it up ecms were fine on the trucks law enforcement could plug into them and know exactly what the truck did and the driver was accountable the electronic logging device is nothing more then a brain for the up-and-coming fully automated nonhuman controlled trucks autonomous is a devaluing name to cover up the control the computer corporations are seeking for the federal government leave Trucking alone we as drivers have had handed down to us an industry that has thrived and Supply billions upon billions of people we know what to do we don’t need you putting a leash on us put the hours of service back to what they originally were 10 hours driving and 8 hours Sleeper Berth they can be split at no less than 2 hours this was fine your sleep study was stupid and nothing more than an excuse to do what you always do you step into something that is working fine and you screw it up it’s never too late for truckers to band together and shut down 36 hours without trucks moving and the federal government will get the message to back off let truckers alone we’re shoved in the right lane are speed is governed four wheelers are not allowed to smoke legal marijuana and drive a vehicle law enforcement sees us as a ways and means to meet their quality performance status otherwise known as ticket quota and places to park are not near enough and scumbag companies propping up only want to take more money out of the trucking industry try putting a boot on my windshield you wish you hadn’t.
Again leave truckers alone we’ve delivered Freight for nigh on 100 years and America has thrived what is it take for the federal government to back off and leave us alone we can do our job just fine take care of your deficit.
DonM says
I call BS on the special conditions if breaking up the 14 hour driving clock. Leave the sleeper rule out of it. 7/3 is sufficient without adding more complexities to the duty status.
Drivers don’t need to have doubts about compliance hanging over them ever moment of every day.
Roy A Drumm says
Autonomous trucks are already being used so why all this b.s. about rules and regulations?
I certainly hope all that my brothers have had to deal with and worry about are going to be implied on the creators and operations of autonomous trucks now that are going to put many more American jobs out the door.
Well myself, iam sceptical of this idea about replacing truck drivers with a computer g.p.s. operated truck.
Ima sure that’s the goal, to eliminate human drivers for commercial vehicles.
So maybe you should worry a little bit about that.
Just saying…
Saini says
At the end of the day it’s big carriers that gna win
Mdh says
77-80 hours in 8 days would be more accurate.
PupEPerson says
I’ve had a commercial drivers license for over 50 years. The best days of trucking were under those rules and are long gone. The old paper log rules were simple and worked. More proof that if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. The newly proposed rules may be slightly less restrictive than the current rules, so they are better, but still too controlling. To echo everyone else’s comments, these rules were written by those who never did the job, don’t appreciate the job, don’t understand the job, probably couldn’t do the job if they had to and don’t know anything about a truck except that it’s bigger than a car. My suggested fix for the new rules is that they rely too much on the minute and second hands of a clock. Build in an “accurate to within 15 minute” rule like it was for years and years and call it good. Do away with mandated 30 minute breaks here and there and allow drivers to work at their own pace to safely complete the job. The part about letting time spent on fueling/inspections to count as part or all of a 30 minute beak is a good one. Allow 15 3/4 hour driving days like it used to be, up to the allowable weekly on-duty or driving maximum and then require 24 off. Not many are going to use those long driving hours except sporadically anyway — just when they need to. Just give the drivers a little credit for common sense that they know their limitations better than anyone else, certainly better than some egghead in a 9-5 office somewhere. Allow some situational awareness, which the newly proposed rules do (adverse driving conditions, etc.) Allow experienced drivers with no chargeable accidents to run paper logs and forget AOBRD’s and ELD’s. They are a needless expense and complication.
Al says
Forcing a driver to STOP for 10 hours is STUPID!
We are adults, WE know when we are tired and sleepy! Waking up after 5 or 6 hours of sleep, tossing and turning, KNOWING that we have to sit for 4 more hours, is frustrating!
So we wait, WIDE AWAKE, NOW it’s time 6to take off! A couple of hours later we get sleepy, but, we know we have loads to deliver, but we have to keep driving!
I KNOW my body BETTER than these, never driven idiots who make up these idiotic rules! As we get older, it’s hard to sleep 8 or 10 hours. We wake up to pee, then are awake for hours.
Let ME sleep until I wake up, then let me drive until I GET TIRED. THEN
let me take a NAP when I wake up I
Let ME drive when I feel alert enough to drive!
Since I AM allowed to drive 10 to 13 hours out of 24, LET ME DRIVE WHEN I FEEL SAFE to drive.
I KNOW MY SLEEP PATTERNS BETTER THAN YOU DO!!!!!
Steven says
Simply make HOS 12 on and 12 off split as needed but 12 for everything and no worry about on running recap. Yes its 84 hours a week, but you can split as needed like six on six off etc. Also. Every driver every day starts with the same 12 hours. Makes dispatching predictable. Reduces deadhead cost if a 11 hour driver is 6 hours away vs a driver with three driving hours is 10 miles away. Now they both have 12..
ABEL HERRERA says
10 HRS IN THE SLEEPER BERTH…..ARE WAY TOO MANY , YOU GUYS FROM FMCSA ,DON’T YOU GUYS TELL ME THAT YOU GUYS SLEEP 10 HRS A DAY….. COME ON WAKE UP……8 HRS ARE MORE THAN ENOUGH.
Drifter says
Here’s a COMMEN SENSE idea, how bout just get rid of the 14 hour clock altogether and just go back to the way before, you can ONLY drive 11 hours in a 24 hour period without a 10 hour break just like before the government decided that drivers were to stupid to know when to sleep. Keep your ELD, damned near impossible to cheat on them.
Patrick Conley says
If we Truly want to be heard and get results, a strike is the only way that’s going to happen. Just like they did back in the 70’s which brought about a quick response. Problem is there is no Trucker Brotherhood loyalty anymore and nobody has the gonads to stick together and stike.
sonny Pruitt says
If they tell you to all get on your knees and kiss their feet that’s what you’ll do to keep your below minimum wage jobs.all while the economy is booming and there are more jobs than workers.I don’t feel sorry for any of you. If you don’t like it leave it. Nothing worse than trying to work around someone who complains about their job all day yet refuses to do anything about it. I’ll quit a job I don’t like before I cry all day and make my co workers miserable. Its not fair to them to have to listen to you whine all the time. Its literally draining on a person to listen to your endless wailing.
Dave says
Personally I think they should either get rid of most, if not all, of the regs regarding drivers but keep the ones for equipment safety.
If they would include 4 wheelers in the fed regs then that would be a whole new ball game and I would be in total agreement with having regs.
I drove for well over 50 years with more than 7 million miles, no at fault accidents and normally ran for 18 plus hours out of 24.
Drivers know when they are tired and when they need to shut it down, at least they should if they have ANY COMMON SENSE. If they do not then they do not belong in a truck
Bob Williamson says
New rules sound a touch better than the current, BUT it shouldn’t be up to all of us because I believe there should be 2 sets of rules.
One set of rules should be for company drivers & it should be more on the lines of a 8 hour day & paid accordingly via hourly w/OT or by the load.
Second set of rules should be for OO’s & IC’s & they should get all of the say as to what works best for them. They have to much invested & for the most part the HOS rules were originally setup for them & maybe a couple of the big boys from back in the day when they scored large contracts and such. Then they would pay drivers well as long as they could deliver on time, no matter what it took.
The fact that large Companies could take the Federal mandated HOS rules from back in the day & completely screw over the little guy by getting them to work for 2/3’s of the day & for pennies per mile, completely screwed over the entire blue collar working man.
Remember when we mattered?
Remember when we worked 8 hrs. a day & if OT was needed we were ASKED if we wanted to work OT? Usually hrs.ahead of time.
Then things started to change little by little & not for the us, the people.
That’s when they you only qualify for OT after 40 hrs. a week, but at least weekends still qualified as OT?
The long & short of it is that big business, large trucking companies are only screwing us (the little guy) for their own gain.
Either which way, we the drivers need to & should always still stand together as one & for the in-betterment of all.
Fred Alishah says
Any change to make a less stress on driver shoulder could be a good change.
But that’s not what we are looking for. We are looking for fundamental
Change if DOT is looking to make our industry to be safe for public and
Us as drivers, need to make a fundamental changes. And here are changes
To make our industry safe and more profitable for public, and industry as
Whole.
1- ELG design based on time while drivers getting paid on miles.
So these 2 goes against each other and result is less revenue to drivers.
drivers must paid hourly than that would cover all, lost time, in shippers,
receivers, traffic, road accidents, road constructions, even either 30
Minutes or even 45 minutes Lunch break.
DOT must concider Shipper or reciver as part of waight solutions and
Come up with standard pallets weights, also any of shipper or receivers
That loading over 25000 pond to have Scales in their facilities to waight each
Accel not only total waight.
Hourly pay based on local hourly pay ,could be from $22 to 29 per hour based on experience. Thank you
Debra says
Guess we wait and see now. But it seems like a good idea no matter what some of the whiners think here.
Luis Duran says
For me it’s a bunch of crap . Don’t make any sense all those stupid rules if they really not helping the driver. Too controlling. It should be simpler. Here I go :
Get rid of that stupid computer trying to control my body needs.
Let me drive when I feel good for driving.
Let me stop and sleep or nap anytime I need too .
STOP PUSHING
STOP CONTROLLING
NOTE : OF COURSE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY DOING . I EXPLAINED THE RULES TO A CHILD 12 YEARS OKD AND HE SAID : NOT MAKING SENSE….!
IDIOTS ….