Multiple people in a residential area of West Seattle called 911 when they saw thousands of metal balls bouncing down the street, denting cars and cracking windshields.
Driver Robert Herman was carrying approximately 44,000-pounds of industrial metal grinding balls from Seattle to Salt Lake City. He was still in Seattle when he made a wrong turn. When his GPS rerouted him onto a steep street, Herman’s truck had trouble getting up the hill.
“[The truck] came to a halt and spinning its tires,” said Matt Sexton, a witness to the incident who was out walking his dog, according to KIRO. “And then it decided to reverse out, gained a lot of speed and when he hit the brakes the back end busted open.”
Out of the back of the truck poured thousands of 2-pound metal balls. They’re supposed to be used for grinding stone into sand, so they were more than tough enough to put sizeable dents in at least six vehicles and crack a few windshields. Amazingly though, no one was hurt.
NEW VIDEO: This is why @SeattlePD has shut down 30th Ave SW and SW Genessee. Truck carrying metal balls loses its load, sending the two pound balls tumbling down hill. #KOMONews pic.twitter.com/zjxuY1UAfE
— Morgan Chesky (@BreakingChesky) October 18, 2018
“I’m looking back and then I see all these balls and I said ‘Holy s**t!'” said Robert Herman in an interview with KVAL.
It took police several hours to clean up the mess.
Herman was issued a citation for an improperly secured load and received a $136 fine.
Source: seattletimes, kiro, wbtv, kval
Butch McTavish says
That’ll be a huge insurance rate increase for that company
moe says
The driver is an utter moron.
If you smash your thumb with a hammer it isnt the hammers fault.
A gps is a tool and only that.
Maybe the worst took ever for the segment of drivers to lazy to read a map or pick up a phone.
Hopefully he never works in our industry again.
I guarantee he would never work for me
RS Foltz says
Are you a truck driver? Well I am, and I have had the SAME ISSUE. Google Maps is NOTORIOUS for taking trucks down roads not intended for trucks (ie residential neighborhoods), weight restricted roads, etc. It has even shown my ending point nowhere near where it actually was leaving me to cross an empty field in my semi and when I backed it up to take it the right way, it went nuts telling me to make a U-turn and dump me off in the original incorrect location. I HATE GOOGLE MAPS.
RS Foltz says
And just for the record, I haul HAZMAT (crude oil) and have years and almost a million miles under my belt.
The electronic logging system they’ve put in place and Google maps are both dangerous and should be outlawed. They’re going to get somebody killed. And that’s real.
Shirley Armstrong says
I completely agree with you RS Foltz. Too many new streets (and roundabouts) for a GPS to tell a 60′ vehicle whats safe.
Gerard Scacchi says
A million miles under your belt new saying the electronic logs are going to get people killed I’ve been out here 31 years done it both ways and you might mean the 14-hour rules with the no split brakes will get somebody killed what 14 hours of work is 14 hours of work whether you’re using paper or electronic so how is it the electronic logs fault now the GPS anybody who uses Google Maps for a truck is a moron anyway get you a trucking GPS spend a little money Garmin Rand McNally program the weight height length of trailers whether you’re carrying has been or not and what the Hazmat is and it will put you on the right roads don’t blame the tools for a driver’s ignorance
Benthere N Dunthat says
Hauls haz-mat, has years and miles under his belt yet relies on Google maps rather than a motor carriers atlas and/or TRUCK SPECIFIC GPS and wants us to believe he is a truck driver 🤦♂️🤣.
If one doesn’t begin to learn, adapt, and progress beyond the level of a driver with only six months experience and you continue to repeat that over and over for many years and miles, you don’t become an experienced 7 – 10 year million mile safe driver. You only become a steering wheel holder with six months experience repeated over and over and over and…..
Electronic logs and Google maps are only tools. Drivers that can not learn and adapt to e-logs or comprehend that gps is only an adjunct are dangerous and should be outlawed before they get someone killed! And that’s real!
Bev Sinblisn says
There is a trucker’s bible called ROAD ATLAS about $60 for the times GPS is messed up. You are ACCOUNTABLE. When are men EVER GOING TO OWN UP. Ridiculous to proceed
Jerry trull says
Had a guy flag me down at a pilot ask me directions.couldnt rember the hiway number told him to grab his map and id show him.ive never seen a blank look that hard.i just shook my head and walked away
Marc Smith says
Here’s Your SIGN !!!
Tony says
Google maps is not meant to be used to navigate to a customer by means of a big truck. I love Google maps to see WHERE MY CUSTOMERS ARE, to see what the roads look like in satellite view if they should be taken by a big truck, and to locate land marks near a customer and to use street view to see where to enter the property. I use it in conjunction with my Rand McNally Motor Carriers atlas and my Rand McNally Truck GPS. Using those together are about 98% accurate at finding a customer safely.
Jason Fountain says
I do the exact same thing. I can see where I’m going. What to look for etc. I never rely on what the gps tells me. A lot of times by using satellite view I find a better way for a truck to take. I always check my atlas for road restrictions.
Techslave says
Yes sir!
Tommyboy says
Exactly what I was going to say and do, Google was never meant for commercial vehicles
HoneyBadger says
AGREED! I do the same! I compare the differences between the Truck GPS and Google maps and find the best route. Plus, Google maps gives real time updates on road closures and slow downs. Garmin and Rand McNally don’t do that.
Ga Activist says
Your gps did not “take you on xx road” as you said. YOU chose to blindly following it.
Experienced Trucker says
DON’T USE google maps. It is FOR CARS NOT TRUCKS. Truckers have an App called *Trucker Path* that shows TRUCK ROUTES, scales, truck stops. And it shows your 20 in REAL time as well as delays accidents etc.. Guess the newer electronic fixes all generation has never called dispatch or customer for directions.
Jeff says
Trucker Path doesn’t show truck routes yet does it??
Terry says
The thing about trucker path it doesn’t show your directions so you can read ahead you just have to follow your color road like (follow the yellow brick road) lmao
Scott says
Google maps isn’t designed for truckers dude. If you rely on GPS alone period you’re a moron. Get proper directions. Memorize them, or least get a look at the satellite image so you what you’re getting into.
James Hill says
Google maps is only intended for cars. It doesn’t offer truck routing. He’s using the wrong tool.
Paul says
Google Maps is NOT a truck GPS!
Cat22 says
You shouldn’t be using Google Maps for truck routing – that’s insane!
Get a decent TRUCK oriented GPS unit or learn to read a map (can you say Trucking Atlas?) or both.
Google maps has no idea you are a truck asking for directions. Do you think it knows how heavy or how tall your vehicle is?
William J Hudson says
That’s funny, Google Maps was not intended for truck navigation.
ME says
SO INVEST IN A RAND MCNALLY. GOOGLE MAPS WASN’T DESIGNED FOR TRUCKS, IT WAS DESIGNED FOR CARS. SO YES, YOU AND THAT CLOWN WERE AT FAULT.
John says
Most maps, physical and electronic, the streets are color coded. You’ll have to look at the ledger of each map because each map company will color them differently but usually freeways are blue, state/federal trunk line highways are yellow, county roads might be green, gray, etc but almost every map I’ve ever seen or used, even Canada’s maps, the residential roads are plain white or simply black lines on the map. Basically if it’s a colored road on the map, you’ll usually be okay as it’s some sort of a commercial route. Of course that’s not always true but I’ve had no problems so far following that rule.
James says
Google maps is not meant for trucks….
Skim says
Google maps is much better than rand mc nally, but it just needs to be tweaked for truckers. If Google had a trucker gps, they d dominate the GPS industry.
H D says
Google maps is not designed for class 8 trucks only walking, cars and such so if you rely on google maps or any other GPS that’s stupid on your part. Rand McNally knucklehead.
Jumel says
Then Truckers need to stop being cheap and invest in a Truckers GPS, that will keep them on truck routes.
David Ciancaglione says
Companies need to stop being cheap and start paying the drivers so they can buy the big book….
YeOldeDave says
If you count on a GPS, you’re far from a truck driver.
Jason Lawrence says
To be fair,
Google maps is not optimized for commercial semi truck use so you shouldn’t be using it like it’s a truck GPS. It should be used sparingly to get a layout of an unfamiliar area or to visualize where a shipper/receiver is located.
Also, even if you do have a truck GPS (which I assume would’ve told him NOT to go on that street) you still have to compare where it’s telling you to go with what you are actually seeing.
I have one of the newer Rand McNally GPS and can’t tell you how many times I had to ignore when it wanted to send me half way across town just to navigate me to the other side of the street.
What I’m trying to say is that no matter what it either says, you have to temper it with what you actually see. If you’re not sure you should stop even if it blocks traffic for a minute or two. Those four wheelers will be fine. Otherwise, you’ll end up as the next article and not in a good way.
gail morra says
Excuse me, but google maps is not a trucker GPS!
Roger says
So you say you are a Hazmat driver with “millions of miles” experience right?
Do you use Google maps to carry Hazmat? Are you insane? Google maps is notoriously not for HC or for any type of big rig commercial vehicle for that matter. Google maps is for motorcycles and 4 wheelers.
What kind of a moron CDL Hazmat driver uses Google Maps. Do me a favor and surrender your DL, or at least, carry non-dangerous goods. And get a real trucker GPS or use a map.
Terry says
First thing, if you’re using GOOGLE maps to route your truck,,,,,which it’s for cars and not big trucks. Then you are in the same category as this driver
Roy says
Precisely right. It looks like if the guy saw the street was that steep he would’ve had enough sense to know his truck wouldn’t make the climb. But today these trucking schools are putting these people put on the road that don’t have enough common sense to get in out the rain.
Derrick says
The way you sound nobody would want to work with you! The guy made a mistake…like you never made a mistake huh?
H. Wood says
I agree. Nobody is born with a shifter in their hand.H.
Rod Barnes says
You e obviously never driven a truck in West Seattle. Maybe reserve your judgment until you have.
Marc Smith says
As a matter of fact I have…Genius.
Experienced Trucker says
Not like he couldn’t have stopped n bought a map or called for directions huh?
gail morra says
Stopped in seattle to buy a map. In seattle. That’s funny
Lynn says
That’s a bit harsh dont you think?
Truckergirl2014 says
How is he a moron? He purchased a device that he pays for every month, that should give him accurate directions!… Comparing a hammer to a functional device that suppose to give directions is the by far the dumbest thing I’ve ever read!
Jerry says
He’s a moron, because he didn’t trip plan and use his Atlas. Trucking 101 !
Sir Byrd says
Roadways change more often than maps— which means they’re not as effective as one might think.
Chris says
As Moe points out, the GPS is only a tool. One of many available to the driver. Computers were made by humans. Humans ***k up. A driver should check their route with multiple sources before leaving on their trip.
Tony says
That’s right Chris. Just like I said in my earlier statement.
Don says
What gps do you use, monthly fee?
Frank says
Here is my take driver. GPS should be outlawed in commercial vehicles. And to get a CDL, you should be required to pass a test of reading a road atlas. What amazes me is how many years the trucking industry survived without GPS. And we didn’t have a damned cell phone in our trucks. And we have very, very few incidents such as this. We read maps and we made phone calls from a pay phone at a truck stop. I do not know how we survived.
Experienced Trucker says
Aww the good ole days 😂
Stan says
That is bull it took place all the time 24 hr news makes it seem worse now been in this industry for over 35 years learned how to do this job in Seattle you deliver in places not made for a 53 them places were made back when we used 38
David Ciancaglione says
We survived by way of common sense….
Douglas Kirk says
I can’t believe the number of trucks I see going down the interstate for 1500 miles with a GPS on the dash. You can’t follow road signs on a road that goes in a straight line for days? I also don’t buy the argument about needing it for fuel stops, etc…..Read. The. Signs.
I don’t have one and have no need for one. I seldom look at my map anymore, unless I’m touring the backwoods of East Nowhere
peter Dundys says
Have you tried to find a payphone recently. They have gone the way of the Dodo bird
Richard A Arrieta says
Your so right and well said! Although the load should have been more secured!
Douglas Kirk says
Grinding balls are commonly carried on flatbeds with a short side kit, maybe 18 inches high. My guess is they all rolled to the back and he spun out due to no weight on the front. Jamming on the brakes made it worse. He could have made a controlled descent if he would have used his head. I wonder if the shipper might reconsider and use wooden boxes or even barrels……wait…that would make more sense, but it would cost more and cut down on how much product could be sent on a load……
SMDH
There is no way to secure a load of this kind, so a ticket for unsecured load is crap. Anybody have an idea how to strap down steel balls?
Joh, says
LOL you’re right on have a safe trip
Kevin says
He does not pay every month and no gps is dead accurate for truck routes and everyone knows this. Even rand McNally, the best of truck gps’s will try to get you to u-turn on roads you are not supposed to be on. So yes, he was an idiot.
Tony says
You can turn the u-turn feature off and not allow it. I have one and I use that Rand McNally GPS in conjunction with Google Earth maps under satellite view. Hardly ever get lost anymore..
Nick says
Gps is only a tool. Update it or by better one if you dont have brain to think.
S.texidor says
Stop being cheap buy truck GPS
Anthony says
Well if your a driver your a moron too and done moron things. I’ve been trucking 27 and I’ve done moron things everyone that drive a truck has. Its that guys turn to do something moronic. But the most moron thing that you can do is get on here and talk junk, about the moron things that can happen to you.
Del says
Amen
Paul Perez says
Garmin! Follow the leader!
S.texidor says
Common sense should override a mechanical device..but todays drivers do not come equipped with that..same reason dumb asses hit overpasses because GPS said they could make it
Rab says
Wow, harsh.
SnowWalker says
Maps or atlases do not show hills or steep grades. If the guy was not a local, how was he to know. If he had time to analyze the slope, fine; however, I have entered areas that caused me to shake my head. You are the idiot dude.
Kevin says
Maps do show truck routes.
mousekiller says
All this he is this or his is that it all comes down to one thing. Common sense or lack there of. The inability to make sound decision without out side assistance like a GPS. open eyes,.Happy Now? Not one of you are mistake free. What sets each of us apart is – did we learn from the mistakes we made? sounds like for some posts there are a lot of perfect people.
John says
I agree with you. Folks make mistakes eventually , it’s all about keeping mistakes to a minimum and without much carnage, I see a lot of posts about you should do this and that blah blah blah I’m a super trucker blah blah blame game. The world is imperfect and that is why we have warranties and recall notices. We are all exposed to many kinds of scenarios out on the roads and have several choices but none that are full proof accurate and have to choose the best one in a narrow window of opportunity. Godspeed Driver and have a great trip on your travels 10-4
Nick says
Dude is a moron. Probably lack of experience and made big news and laughing stock. Sorry bout his bad luck and lack of judgement b4 climbing a hill he obviously shouldnt have attempted.
ME says
ALL RAND MCNALLY GPS HAVE A ELEVATION PROMPT THAT LET’S YOU KNOW WHETHER YOU ARE GAINING ALTITUDE OR LOOSING IT ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PRESS THE BUTTON IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER THAT TELLS YOU WHEN YOU ARE GOING TO ARRIVE AT YOUR LOCATION AND SELECT ELEVATION. IT ALSO HAS ABOUT 4 MORE PROMPTS FOR OTHER REASONS FOR SITUATIONS YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF NEEDING AN ANSWER TO. BUY A RAND MCNALLY DON’T RELY ON GOOGLE MAP.
zee says
if he just picked up the load, and didn’t have a clue as to how to get out
of the area, why not ask the shipper,etc.??
Just WOW!
Jude says
How did he get to the shipper and why not take the same route out?
Ed says
I been driving 25 years before cell phones were even widespread. I’ve been on those Seattle streets after making wrong turn. Anybody that says that driver is a moron is himself a moron in my book.
That driver may be inexperienced and made a chain of bad decisions…but I’m sure the super truckers posting here all been born with a million miles under their belt
Fred Douglas says
I was directed to my pick,up per GPS direction. It routed me thru a lake. GPS is good most of the time but the user must use common sense. I have been routed it housing developments but did not go in because any dummy like myself your truck dose not belong there. If your going to run a GPS, buy a GPS designed for trucks. Fines can out weigh the cost of a real GPS. GPS for cars will take you down restricted streets to low under passes and over under rated bridges.
Paul says
I agree driver. Obviously he never heard of a map or perhaps asking a police officer or mail carrier. Too many steering wheel holders in our industry are so dependent on electronics it’s ridiculous.
Paul Logan says
How true. IT’S a tool PERIOD.GET AN ATLAS AND A PIECE OF STRING. THINK
ARE YOU OFF THE INTERSTATE?
THINK AGAIN.
DID YOU PROGRAM YOUR G.P.S.?
THINK
WILL THIS SHOW HOW STUPID I AM?
THINK
ENOUGH SAID .
Jack of Hearts says
Unless you are a 30yr/3million mile (accident free) driver, you should not have a comment. I’m not and I don’t.
Disgruntled X.Driver
John O'Neill says
While I appreciate that you are perfect I, as a 2,000,000 mile accident free drdridrdrivdrdridrdrivedrdridrdrivdrdridrdriver can tell you that poop occurs. My GPS has routed me down dead 3nd streets and worse. And even I have found myself in a residential area of Sesttle in a tractor trailer and I still dont know how that happened. I have been routed up way too steep streets in Seattle by road signs to intersections that cannot be negotiated by a tractor pulling a 53′ trailer. Seattle sucks. And guess what? I live there!
I do take issue with his load being improperly secured, as van pullers often think they do not need to secure their loads, but I still dont think this qualifies him as a moron as a moron is defined as one who has an IQ of between 50-69. Clearly morons cannot qualify for the CDL w sever mental retardation like that of a moron. Words mean things. They symbolize as much about the author as they do the instant subject matter. Your words mean to me that you might be suffering from Borderline Deficiency.
Gregory Huntley says
Maps dont work to well once inside city driver. $20 says you have a gps in your window that has steered you wrong a time or two. Not everyone can drive a truck and become Mr know it all super trucker after the 1st day like you.
Sergey says
World Record for Marble Run!!!
Dave says
When you lose them, you lose them. It’s a lot!
Calvin Hicks says
Another of those well trained “New Millinenum” drivers!!!
duh says
Except he’s 57…
Jon says
Millennium? I think you meant “Millenial”
Sir Byrd says
Roadways change more often than maps— which means they’re not as effective as one might think.
zee says
but he didn’t pay attention as o how he got there in the first place?
Jason Lawrence says
But do you blame the new driver who wouldn’t know any better, Or the “Professional Trainer” that’s supposed to be responsible for teaching him the basics of what he needed to know?
Just saying, if you where taught by someone who took the time to make sure you new what you were doing, then consider yourself lucky (I certainly do!).
I can’t even count the number of newer drivers I’ve met at truck stops whose trainers either :
– Have limited driving experience themselves (6 months – 2 years total)
– Never teach to properly back up (Trainer does hard backing, trainee only does easy to save time)
– Used by trainer to pad his miles/ by company as cheap team to cover longer distances
All I’m saying is, before everyone dog pile on these new drivers, how about we teach them when we can (instead of laughing on CB when they’re struggling at a truck stop) because they just might’ve had bad trainer,etc.
Remember to the rest of the public , when new drivers look bad , we all look bad.
Ultimate trucker says
136 dollar fine… I don’t use a blinker and pay 275 bucks this guy loses his load and messes cars up and gets cited 136 bucks. Yea ok that makes sense
Charles says
Hope you dont have to switch jobs anytime soon. Got a ticket for failure to signal in KY years back…driver flashed me over. Found out when I went looking for a new job, trucking companies look at that offense as “major” violation.
rangerider51 says
Yeah, your a real “sweetheart “. Guy flashes you over and your rude by not even signaling. You deserved that ticket. I see a lot of moron truckers that are suppose to be professional not signal.
Kathleen says
Right!!
Rick says
ANOTHER ONE OF THESE WANNA BE DRIVERS. BLAME A GPS??? DONT GET ME WRONG IVE FOLLOWED A GPS and didn’t like where it took me. BUT NORMALLY I CALL THE CUSTOMER AND COMPARE GPS TO THEIR DIRECTIONS. A GPS SHOULD JUST BE USED TO ASSIST.
Nick says
AMEN! EXACTLY
Fred Douglas says
AS-S-I-S-T get it assist!
Thomas says
I learned the hard way but the load would have flash fired and blew up the trailer anyway even though I failed to secure the load because the shipper put hazardous materials inside that wasn’t supposed to be but I got the fine. Yet I’m happy I’m still alive.
Lynn says
👍
Fred Douglas says
tell us that again, please. Did not secure the load because the shipper put HM in the trailer?????
Juan Robledo says
These young, inexperienced, uneducated, drivers need to use an road atlas, they rely on gps, the thing can go a frizts and then find yourself in a bind and blame the dam thing when should have used common sense or gotten directions if you ask
BV says
I agree.
Moving Forward Maine says
You’re right about how a GPS is far from perfect and can often be wrong, but don’t forget we also have some older unexperienced drivers that trust them too much. I like my GPS, but I LOVE my Rand McNally road atlas… and I’ve also learned how important it is to read warning signs posted on the roadways.
hugo miller says
I’m from the UK and I have collected a whole file of news clippings where people have done the stupidest things ‘because their GPS told them to’. That’s where blind faith in computers gets you. But I have yet to find a decent road atlas in the US. British ones are far better – A to Z atlases show you the precise layout of every road junction for instance.
Derich J Simmons says
Hmm…I happen to have a very detailed atlas of the United States. It shows restricted routes, low clearances and even fuel tax rate for each state. Maybe you need to find that atlas then compare your “far better than the United States atlas “
duh says
Yes, but there are far fewer roads in England than in the US. It’s like having a really nice map of Illinois.
Patricia says
Try finding side roads on your precious atlas. Washington is a shit hole and many roads you would never expect to drive on actually leads to the highway. I will never drive there not even in my personal vehicle. To bad their antifa gang wasn’t protesting there, maybe it would have knocked some sense into their heads.
John says
That’s probably because driving in the old continent is so much harder than driving in the US.
Douglas Kirk says
The state I live in is bigger than Jolly Old England…..how much time would it take to show more detail of a larger area? Why do you need to be led by the nose at all times? Use your head and whatever driving skills you have and you’ll be fine
My Brain is my map says
Exactly. My wife often says that me having a GPS is pointless when I don’t follow its directions to the letter. I mainly use it for arrival times.
Sara says
Yeah on that driver Rand McNally was around long before GPS
Kurt J Huber says
How much would you like to bet?
I’ve been Trucking since 1996 I’m STILL on paper logs and I don’t have a damn thing on my single page MVR.
I like my steak med. rare and baked potato loaded.
Paul W Burkett says
Common sense. They don,t have that and you can,t teach it to them in a 6 week truck driving class!
mousekiller says
your fine should have been
$500.
Last Renegade says
They would have no clue how to use an Atlas. Seems GPS is to difficult for some.
Charlie says
He’s 57 years old. Try again?
Scott says
Dudes 57…
Kaiyla says
Well he is 57 years old.
Kenneth D Trappier Jr says
I use the GPS with atlas to trip plan but I always write it all down just the way I was taught.
Tim Armentrout says
Driver should have stoped immediately and called local police for help and put out warning triangles to warn traffic of situtation .
Marc says
👍👏
Jack says
When you are an IDIOT, this is the result! Our industry is in the crapper today!
John Rodman says
Boys and girls it was a mistake. We’ve all made them. So just laugh about it. And say yeah nobody got hurt but it’s still funny. Other thing is I read the article and it didn’t say how long he’s been driving so you don’t really know if he’s new or not. We use to stand behind drivers now we just try and vilify them.
Tim Weber says
Your exactly right John Rodman.
moe says
Amen. Ignorance and stupidity abound. I’m not old enough to retire but at the end of the year im out for good.
The job has become a chore and life is short.
Good luck to you all with cameras in your truck. Computers telling you when your tired and inexperienced dot cops that know less about regulations than the drivers they are inspecting .
The industry is a freight train rolling downhill and I’m not riding it to the crash site
Patricia says
Congratulations on your upcoming retirement. I know of a lot of drivers wanting out but its all they know. Well all they knew minus all the stupid new regs every year.
mousekiller says
Best of luck in your retirement. I had a belly full of the BS, the ignorance behind the wheel and the idiot regulations being force on us. so after over 50 years behind the wheel o f a CMV I took the plunge. Don’t look back. The real reason for some of the goofy happenings and stupid situations caused by the old timers not mentoring the new drivers. Then again the new drivers think they know it all .More time is spent bad mouthing and ridiculing than teaching. How many times do you see videos of driver having issues backing and the ass hat taking the video did not help ? 99 % of the time. . Failure over the years to mentor, teach and of course lets not exclude the electronics has ruined the once proud profession of truck driving. it is now just a job not much different than Mikey D’s..Even Mikey ds has a dress code.
Derrick says
I agree!!!
Last Renegade says
23 years and I have never lost any part of any load ever. It is not luck, I pay attention to all the small things.
Lynn says
Thank you John
BURCHELL BAILEY says
It’s so easy if your not very careful
When loaded to lose it.,I can’t stress enough the when’s and why…comon sense…plan your trip properly..GPS is only a guide…am a Atlas guy
Linda says
$136 fine. Bwahahaha! Suckers!
Patricia says
The fine won’t stick. If you knew about Washington you’d know that. I was cut off and couldn’t get back over to the weight scale. I got a hundred dollar ticket. I called in to pay it on their automated bs line and instead of them accepting it they suspended my license. I only found out when I had gotten stopped in my personal vehicle. I called once again to pay it and they wanted 1500. That state is a truckers nightmare
Shirl says
Seems to me , everyone is a perfect truck driver ! New or not, don’t make it seem as if you all are perfect. Everyone makes mistakes. No one got killed and no one was reported hurt. Think about the mistakes you’ve made in driving. I’m sure when you think back on them ,they were pretty Stupid too !
John says
To the group complaining about “New Millennium” drivers and “young, inexperienced drivers” — if you clicked the KVAL link and watch the video of the driver talking, you would quickly see that this driver is at least 60+ years old. And judging from his missing teeth, he has probably been trucking a long long time since since poor dental hygiene seems to be a hallmark trait for truckers.
Jim says
Don’t be knocking us old school drivers we been out here doing this job a lot of years before you when the trucks were not as nice as they are Now.
Last Renegade says
He might be a reformed meth head. Just because he is old doesn’t mean he had experience. I look young but Ive been driving a rig for 23 years.
Buddy says
I guess that’s the way the balls bounce !
TexasJester says
GPS is a TOOL. It is not always accurate, even the “trucker” devices. I was going south out of Baker City, OR, on a marked truck route not too long ago. My gps said it wasn’t a truck route, and tried desperately to route me off that road on any road that came up, even those marked “notrucks”! One “road” had a gate, and was nothing more than a track through the forest.
If you don’t know the area, ask the locals. Ask the customer how to get in and out. Look up the non-emergency police or fire department number and ask them. If you get REALLY lost, and don’t like the roads you see, call the cops and ask them to assist getting you out – I’ve done that a few times over 3 1/2 decades. Call a taxi! Explain you’ll pay his fee and have him lead you out.
No amount of technology can replace “humintel”.
Eddie says
I know…… these Millennial drivers are so dumb, they would not know how to run two sets of log books…. they don’t know how to take certain routes to bypass weigh stations when overloaded……. they don’t know about the “alternatives” that don’t show up in your system if tested (so that you can drive for 18-28 hours.) An “old-school” driver named Kevin Roper is in jail, he drove for 24 hours straight, and killed another driver when he failed to stop due to fatigue, Please………. I love how some of you “old school” drivers know that this was an inexperienced, Millennial, when that is not mentioned anywhere in the article, that’s old school drivers for you….. assume what they don’t know….. or just makeup facts. Are we grossly overregulated? Yes, I agree. You want to know what caused most of those regulations to be enacted? It was the antics of……. old school drivers.
Austin Ford says
It is beyond ridiculous the amount of stories that keep popping up almost every day about alleged “professional” drivers that get themselves into trouble because “my GPS told me to do this”. If a person doesn’t have the ability and/or intelligence to read a map and road signs, they have no business behind the wheel of a commercial vehicle. These people are simply steering wheel holders and seat warmers, not professional truck drivers. In 35 years of driving commercial vehicles, I have never relied on an electronic gadget for my routing. It is sad to see that truck driving has been dumbed down to this level just to put a person in the seat and hold the steering wheel.
Derrick says
Oh boy…you’re a classic OLD dude…scared that technology will put you in retirement…get used to it because computers are here to stay! The problem is teaching people how to use the technology!
Austin Ford says
I have absolutely no problem with computers and technology. I own several computers, tablets, smart phone. What I said was, it is stupid for a driver to rely solely on a gps for their routing. GPS systems are not infallible. Electronics in general are not infallible. Do you really think it smart for a driver to be out some place, the gps goes out and they can’t find their way because they don’t know how to read a map? I like the old carpenter’s adage, “Measure twice, cut once”. Same principle here, double check your route and then have a safe trip.
Katy says
I want to write this comment, but work so long on my english writing, and… you wrote wat was in my mind…thank you for the comment! Absolutelly agree! The “driver” just irresponsible blamer.
Dennis Gray says
Not everyone is born a seasoned veteran. A helping hand now and again, instead of bitching might go a long ways.
38 years ago, when I started, I was fortunate enough to have a 40 yr driver help me.
I try to pay that back.
Let’s help and stand together Drivers.
PC says
I use the GPS satellite image and street view to show me building location (4 the building on the right) and I also use it to see if coming in to the location from a different direction is better (sure you can’t account for cars and other trucks) but like fixed objects (fences, poles, walls etc) It is nice in town but you need to do a bit of “pre planning” look at the route, sometimes it wants you to take a route with several turns when you can just make one or two turns and get there. But as far as town to town i use my trusty friend Randy (The old fashion map) for my routing.
Hoss Collar says
All you super truckers out there that says he’s an idiot(moe) , we all make mistakes, at times, some of us are lucky nothing happens but some of us aren’t. It’s true that he should’ve done everything you said, but neither GPS or maps can show you a steep incline. Me , I think I would’ve turned around .
Paige says
Come on, let’s all take a moment to visualize thousands of bouncing, shiny balls going down the street!
duh says
Exactly! That’s all I could think of. We must be on the same ‘Paige’.
…I’ll show myself out.
Jessica says
He lost his balls!
JAFO says
That’s what you get when you pacify a vehicle that was meant to go fast up the hill. These new and improved trucks on the road today don’t have enough power to make it up an anthill let alone a mountain. So that fact that the truck had trouble going up the hill in a residential area begs to question why did the shipper overload the trailer. I mean 44,000 pounds of metal plus the weight if the containers the balls were load in. And the locks and fasteners failed on the trailer doors. GPS don’t know from Jack in the box, not knowing the area you’re in comes to mind. I think if it were possible the driver should have gone out the same way he came in. But I don’t know if that was possible or not. What do I know I’m JAFO.
Scott says
Imagine what would have happened when this driver arrived to the consignee and was told, “slide the tandems, break the seal and open your doors!”
Daniel says
I like how everyone mocks the truck driver, yet, in the video, you see more stupid “regular drivers” who are still driving, despite metal balls rolling down the street. 😉 Who’s the real moron here?
duh says
Wait… THERE’S VIDEO!!!! I’ll be right back, I gotta scroll back up!
Andrew H says
I made a mistake of following my GPS when I was new. Claysville, PA. Missed the entrance for the TA, got to the town, got stopped by a Constable, and the DOT took me down to the Petro to scale. 20T on a 10T road. $5,500.
It was later thrown out in court though as the road wasn’t clearly marked for no truck access. I learned my lesson either way.
Jim O'Brien says
Bad moment for that driver, those victims. Nobody got hurt, and it is a great visual, all those shiny steel balls freely bouncing down the hill. Actually there’s still around 3,000,000 trucks out there each day, and the accident rate is pretty good, considering everything. This little incident wouldn’t even rate a story before smart phones and social media. GPS is a tool, a good tool, way more than a mere gadget. I use two. I use the Road Atlas, I use the State maps. I use Google Earth, Google maps. And some of these companies are still hard to find! Drivers, you know experience is our best tool, but that first time showup makes us all pretty equal.
Bruce says
That’s the funniest thing I seen in awhile. At least he gave us a good laugh on this Friday morning.
HAROLD T HART says
That was a moron truck driver. To much to unwrap. They need to fire this driver.
Bentley says
What a moron, How do you even lose it going up a hill with clear roads…
Jaar says
Sorry that video made me laugh.
Sara says
That GPS will mess up from time to time reason we have maps exit numbers and signs . I bet they sited him but had to declare that the load was not secure. Go figure they had to find something. How many times have you all taken the wrong turn? I have done a couple in my 30 some years.
Sara says
Ate you talking about hail ?
Sara says
Like making sure your trailers connected to the 5th wheel there may be a day when it comes loose. At the scales
Kat says
It is a great challenge to drive in Seattle. From traffic to narrow streets never widened for modern vehicles to steep steep hills and close turns, the maps do not show this and of course neither does the GPS. I drive a 53 foot making deliveries here and it is just extremely difficult. The factories that are left downtown have no parking areas or room to maneuver. Streetside pickup and delivery. Having this freight in a loose load is stupid on the shippers part.
Sara says
I’m older than that driver I made sure I fixed my teeth but your right drivers didn’t have a chance to seek a dentist. It was not that long ago that drivers had no choice except to quit or drive a lot of hours .and I mean 3 days til rest. Now for all you young semi young drivers we have it over you on experience we have been there done that. That drivers not a moron. That load shifts He worked for the company because he is qualified.
Todd martin.. says
You boys need to do it old school… Learn to read a map.. Plan your trip or route ahead of time b4 you leave and have a plan b.. Idiots use these devices today and call themselves professional
Todd martin.. says
Learn to read a map.. !!! Morons these days
Jon says
Young, Millennial drivers huh?
What gets me, is these old, more “experienced” truck drivers always bashing the new guys. As if they were never a new driver once. These guys ask “Where did you get your license?”…”Use an Atlas and not a gps”. Wtf?
These are the same drivers that cant pass their DOT physical legitimately. Takes them 20 mins to hobble across the parking lot into the truck stop so they can fill up their gallon of soda, hobble back across the parking lot, 5 mins to climb into their truck because they are morbidly obese, get back in the truck and start chain smoking them cigarettes. THEN, they get in the radio and start talking about the price of healthcare! Seriously, wtf!!!
These same drivers that ridicule using a GPS are the same driver that dont know how to work a smart phone…..seriously? In an industry that’s always evolving with technology and you still cant use a smart phone, and cant use a GPS as an extra tool?
And who gave this industry the bad rep? The rep of drivers being dirty, nasty, never taking showers, missing teeth, etc. That rep comes from the “old breed” drivers. NOT the newer generation. So thanks guys, we appreciate THAT.
“Old breed” drivers are more experienced, no argument there. But us “new breed” drivers are more educated. We will get that experience with time, but the “old breed” will never get that education.
karen says
Ha Ha . Coming from the old school myself I saw your comments and had to say something. First of all in the old days people knew that if they had troubles on the road, a trucker was the first one there to help. Not true this day and time. Your generation seem to not care about life in general. And by the way , when you’ve had 30 years of rough roads and sub standard equipment to drive, see if you don’t hobble a little slower across that parking lot.And, yes those toothless, nasty, dirty not showered drivers out there aren’t the old school trust me. This behavior has only come about in the past ten years or so. That’s not old school. That education you talk about eventually getting? to be a truly good driver you need to be considerate and drive with common sense. most this day and time don’t understand what that means. That’s all I have to say.By the way I’ve been an o/o for 40 years this year.I don’t mind teaching someone who wants to listen. but most think they know it all already.
Kaiyla says
Young Drivers these days. Except he’s 57 years old. Instead I will say old drivers these days never learn
Monette says
How about mistakes happen? I wouldn’t call him a moron. If the hill is that steep, then maybe the city should put up a sign (NO TRUCKS).
I’ve been to plenty of places where I refused to follow the GPS if it didn’t look like I should go that way.
Mike says
Every body is saying the guy should have done a better job trip planning and used a map instead of relying on GPS. Trip planning takes time and time is something my carrier does not offer. By the time my next load shows up on my Qual Comm, I’m already late. The best I can do is look at my state or national map and compare it to my GPS. I diliver to atleast 2 different cities every week. Where do you guys get these detailed city maps that tell you what city streets are narrow or steep or one way or have cars parked on both sides? My Rand McNally gives me a basic overview but hardly enough that I can guarantee with 100% certainty my route will be uneventful. Some things you just can’t know until you get there and it’s not like you can just pull on to the shoulder to work out a new trip plan. I’ve made mistakes and thank God each time I successfully navigated through them. If you’ve never made mistakes or never even stressed about possible extreme conditions then I guess your a super trucker and probably not reading this because you know everything already. Or you’ve never hauled a load to New York or Jersey or Philly or any other north eastern big city where the drivers are a**holes, the roads are not made for trucks and every other road is under construction with detours. I feel sorry for the guy. I’ve been there.
Tim Trotter says
I bet the Driver ain’t got the balls to do that again. Ha !
22k lbs @ 2 lbs as is 11,000 balls. My mind wonders who picked them all up and with what ?
All kidding aside. Shyt happens. I bet he reflects on backing slower…But that’s a nightmare of mine. Runaway truck going backwards on a steep hill. Yikes !
Give the Driver a break. He didn’t crash it. The authorities must have seen it for what it was cause the charge could be worse.
SnowWalker says
I had my CDL revoked in 2014 after 54 years ( night vision test failed) of being a highway cowboy. With a bit better than 7 million miles behind me, I will admit freely that I have driven into areas that I couldn’t back out of, have sank axles to the hubs, have spun out on gravel grades and have run out of fuel probably a half dozen times. I have pulled loads that I had no idea what was I was hauling. I pulled a load of bombs the entire length of the Alaska Hwy and no idea what was in the trailer until I got to Fairbanks. I even hooked up to the wrong trailer and ended up in Dallas when the load was to go to Portland Oregon. (actually, the shipper screwed up the loading, but I took the blame for it) Mistakes do happen and we all make them. Losing my balls on a highway has never happened to me though!
BigYellower says
I’m from that part of the world the street he went up is non-truck route . It’s clearly marked at bottom of the grade. It’s a steep hill to a residential neighborhoods.
Shamus P. Cella says
A good amount of comments to this post SCARE ME !!! I’ve been OTR 26 yrs. All over, inside and out of the 48. 7/10 of you steering wheel holders need to either turn in your license and save a life today, or find a real truck driver that will take the time to break your bad habits and train you properly! I’ve never seen so many illogical statements from drivers than I do on this forum. I’m ashamed some days to call myself a DRIVER !!! OMG !!!!
karen says
I agree ! I’ve been driving since 1978. I can completely agree because the new tech minded generation always think their way is best. In many, it is, but not always. What the new generation of drivers lack is common sense. A computer is not going to be perfect all the time. They really lack the older drivers teaching them how to do things right . I can’t totally blame them . I’ve heard many older drivers say ” I’m not going to teach them the right way to tie that load down cause next thing you know they’ll be driving off with my next load. So much has changed since I started driving. Somethings good , some not so good.But, If we don’t try to learn and teach from each other. Our profession is no longer going to survive.
Robert L Hansen says
My company had me deliver to the office when the warehouse was on the other side of the mountain.
STRAYCAT says
No one has mentioned the containment of 44k of metal balls.
In a box truck? In an open dirt hauler, what?
Obviously they where improperly contained. If only protected for exiting from the rear of the trailer. If a box truck what would keep the balls from crushing whom ever opened the doors?
This is as important as newbies depending entirely on a non dedicated truck route GPS.
Nick says
Take the skinniest and most crooked streets you can find in Pennsylvania and add a 11% grade and you have west Seattle I’ve had to deliver containers there, it’s a nightmare. You all are right don’t use google for trucking.
Big Bill says
Like the driver be said…Google Maps is only a tool…trust it your own risk.
ALIVEnnnKICKING says
Lol…Every truck driver has made at least one wrong turn in there trucking career…This driver was unlucky,,,,hills and a heavy load…ship happens..but come on,u can never blame the GPS,the driver took the turn not the GPS..Own up,learn from your mistake,move on….Peace lol
Sean says
I think every one has been down a road they shouldn’t be on. However, the GPS excuse won’t fly. An Atlas is a great tool, but doesn’t always show the answer. With time constraints and appt times if nobody answers the phone to help with directions this can put you in an interesting situation. Proper trip planning can alleviate the majority of issues, but there are variables that can be out of your control. There is however no excuse for improper load securement.
Todd Sego says
Google maps is not for truck drivers. It is for cars. You are asking for trouble if you are using Google maps.
Bad Company says
Nobody’s perfect! I’ve been driving 25 years and have had my fair share of mess ups. Yeah when I started driving you had to map out your route or use a pay phone to get directions. I go by my GPS a lot and I have Co-pilot and its routed me wrong sometimes especially into residential areas. We cross our finger and pray we make it out. Lol! Y’all be safe out there and keep your balls in your trailer.
Will says
A good worker never blames the tools… I use my Garmin (truck profile) in conjunction with my atlas for route planning. Google Maps is a great tool for satellite images and looking ahead at traffic flow. The best tool I have is the one between my ears. Always look for “no truck” and weight limit signs before turning. Always plan a backup route, just incase. Know your limitations and don’t take unnecessary risks. I’ve found myself in a pickle a few times, but kept a cool head and eased out of them.
What are everybody’s “favorite” cities? Mine are DFW, CHI, WDC, and ATL. (53′ reefer/ dry van)
Jimmy B says
A skilled worker always gets the best tools. The reason for this is they can rely on them and if they do fail then those best tool manufacturers will take the blame and in some cases reimburse for inconvenience. Thats how it works with tools in trades. I was given a passload battery operated nail gun at the time $600 to make up for a failed tool. I was also given a replacement of the failed tool.
ROBERT says
Blame is nothing more than an excuse to not accept your mistakes as yours. I been in this game for a half a century. You need common sense to begin with. I have seen many new drivers that can do this job and turn it into a rewarding career and seen even more who can’t. I have seen many with millions of miles of experience who should get out of driving because they are terrible people with bad attitudes.
One thing about the newbies is they can learn fast but they need to learn that they cannot rely on technology.
Slowing down a bit in unfamiliar territory and reading/looking for signs will remedy most of their unforeseen mistakes.
What I wonder is how the back doors opened. And better yet, how did that driver think he had a secured load before he left? I would not have relied on the trailer doors to hold back such a load. $136 fine is cheap but could have been avoided if he didn’t decide to go up a road he didn’t belong on. A good atlas would have saved him.
I think this 57 year old driver was inexperienced and got nervous after making that turn. Most drivers get nervous and some panic after making mistakes which leads to dropping the ball. Many balls in this case.
Don’t fully depend on electronics and invest about $50 every couple of years on a new truckers atlas. Also, use paper logs to backup your ELD. You will learn more and keep yourself from dropping the ball. DONT BLAME ANYTHING BUT YOU.
prodriverjim says
Years ago I was looking for a gas station in San Francisco to make a gasoline delivery. I got lost, even though I had a Thomas guide. I needed to pull over to check the Thomas guide, but could not find a place out of the traffic flow. ( ya think?) I continued on, and I saw with my eyes, that the street I was on was starting to go uphill. Remember, I’m in San Francisco, I looked several blocks ahead, and saw the hill was getting steeper, and that a block ahead of me, the sidewalk turned to stairs. Now at what point do I need to be to realize I’m gonna be in trouble if I keep going forward? I stopped, got out of the truck, went to the cars behind me and explained that I need to back up 50 feet, swing to my left, then right to turn down the side street, because I’m not moving further up the hill, period. The car drivers saw the situation, maneuvered around and back, gave me room to turn down the side street, get out of the situation without injury or damage. I don’t trust electronic devices, they are helpful, but one of your best tools are your eyes. LOOK at where you are going, if it looks weird, it probably is. stop before the situation gets worse. He would have gotten some jazz if he called a tow truck to help him out of this predicament, but we would never have heard of him. See what people are saying now. Be safe out there.
Jimmy B says
This can and will happen to us all at one time or other. The difference is we have real drivers who are honest and admit to mistakes made or the super trucker who has never made a mistake (with his truck all beat up). Who was the guy suppose to call? A dispatcher who will give him the same directions from the same GPS the driver was looking at. As far as the secure load I see those trucks go by all the time with lead balls alot more than 2lbs and they sit like you would be throwing them in the back of a pick up truck. No tailgate is going to take the weight of 53 feet of steel.
Scott says
I really appreciate these old school drivers owning up to mistakes they made. I get so tired of reading comments from some of these guys acting like they’ve never made a mistake. Maybe you haven’t made the SAME mistake, but I know you’ve made your share and just got LUCKY that it didn’t end badly.
Friendly Neighborhood Hacker says
I wish I could have been there. Sitting there at the bottom of the hill with my over-sized pinball flappers would have been fun.
karen says
Did anyone catch the fact of a fine for unsecured load ? When they load trailers with steel balls or glass balls it is like a grain trailer and they basicly pour them in and pour them out. there is no securement Right?
Crael Rode says
My husband is a trucker and is a dam good one has been for over 30 plus years I witnessed first hand how awful and dangerous these GPS systems really are it was constantly getting him lost taking him down wrong streets and most of the time pushing his limits on his time crunch for each load yet the company was insisting on him using this hunk of junk instead of him finding his own way which he was very capable of doing so poor trucker I can believe this and the cop needs to use one of these things and maybe he might think twice before writing this poor guy a ticket 😡
Gerald Nash says
Great point Anthony been thër don that yet usually east of mississip….north&south both borders….when drivers speak to a crowd therz aways a crow up n that tree or two maybe more…by the looks of this room…unless u drive the same route….things change…n time u learn not to go down a posted street as i always pray when it looks worst 🆙 ahead…if u got to back out…do so….yet the steel balls seemed to shift so tractor lost that need traction on drives…glad story had happy nding….132.0 ticket….maybe a few dents…windows…i hav pulled dump….hopper…had a few devil loads….been over loaded…the highways are like a racetrac thes days….but thats a different subject…for those perfect…..beware….no one plans 4 a incident….🐵
Farty says
His biggest mistake was accepting a load from Seattle, I wouldn’t go within 200 miles of tha craphole.
John says
Those loads can be rough. I haul something similar twice a week for Ford Motor Co. Some sort of steel ball bearing used for cars. The piece count is always very high, around 40,000 and the loads are heavy. In excess of 40,000 pounds every time. So we’re talking a pound per bearing. They’re loaded into plastic square containers which are pushed flush against the front trailer wall and various load straps are used to secure the back end of the trailer. Even then though, you can still feel the containers sliding around in there. Even though they’re in a square container, those plastic containers slide all over the place. They do what they can to prevent them from moving but there’s only so much they can do. Shit happens.
Voodoo says
WOW, so many damn experts in here, funny i still see trucks parked in ditches every day…he made a mistake Im sure he learned from. I would still like to see how your gonna secure thousands of metal balls. Perhaps ….just mabe…their was a equipment malfunction as well??? Oh…but its just better to criticize one of your fellow drivers
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dave says
Like I said boys and girls, the only thing easy about trucking is phxcking up. Preventable.
Tom says
Who did he drive for, Swift or JB Hunt?
David Ciancaglione says
My theory, the typical CDL mill classroom “professional” drifted his truck in reverse in stead of backing it in gear, and that other factor the money hungry CDL mill didn’t include in their classroom instruction, that thing called gravitational pull, weight plus gravity? Slam on brakes? What is a GPS anyway?
Eric Motz says
The problem is a lot of drivers don’t have common sense. Yes I use a GPS and yes sometimes the route it suggests looks suspicious to me. Just cause the GPS is showing you route if it doesn’t look right why would you follow. My company also sends me routing with a fuel solution, that driver is completely at fault. He should loose his CDL for the rest of life simple because he failed to use common sense.
Xtrucker sam says
Back in the day, I was a mover. I had a delivery in a residential zone in Seattle that had a hill so steep that I would have dragged the landing gear on my drop frame had I made that turn. I didn’t know where that street came out or how I get out once unloaded. I parked about 150 yards from the house and called the destination agent for a small straight truck to shuttle the furniture. I want confident that my brakes would hold while I unloaded. After they came out with a man and a small truck for the shuttle, the agent said it was unnecessary and charged me back for the man and the truck. Made 0 profit for a weeks work after the chargeback. The agent was a complete ahole about it like I was a local and knew those residential streets. Never took a other load to Seattle again and just retired after 45 years
sara says
A friend of mine likes his GPS half the time it needs reprogramming and just quits right in the middle of finding the location. I have found that my apple ipad has a great map but you know it cant tell me road detours nor can it show me exits. I have to always rely on a truckers map. Its the true way the American way. For my friend he likes the lady on the GPS that gives him directions even though he cant see her. Be safe Drivers
Kevin D Ryan says
Google Maps is the best program out there.
sara says
The load was weighed Im sure. but going up a steep hill too steep with a load of bouncing balls will shift, they roll . I just knows Everyone knows that. and before when over loads were there and hopefully never noticed or caught. We all knew the up hill climb. And the down hill fall. Faithfully we held strong to our devoted prayers that seemed to bubble our brakes from failure. (I didnt say it worked) But we prayed alot rain, snow, ice, wind, twisters floods hail bigger that those 2 pound balls. We trucked on into the setting sun and then to the rising sun. and Im pretty sure we did it over and over and over again. Or was that a bright reflection from the other guys trailer in our eye or perhaps a chrome hub cap. certainly not POKIE BEAR .I am just glad that wasnt my day. $136 dollars and clean up fees divided by cars that continued driving into the rolling balls . Go figure
chaz says
If blindly follow you’ll never get there safely.learn to read an at Las.30 yes I still use one.i may use Google to find a place but I use my atlas to get me there.it has truck restrictions,an weight limit roads.get a truckers atlas,learn to read it.an don’t blame your inability on computers.childdish very .
Kenny says
Dont use Google Maps. They use the fastest way from point A to Point B.
Get a good Garmin. And set it up for Commercial Vechile routes. THEN call the other end and ask for specific directions off the main road to their business. Advice from a Old Guy.
jeffrey s wall says
Well no GPS is 100 percent,with that being said get a trucker atlas and do some trip planning, a cobra or rand GPS is ok but dont count on either one to find all shippers or receivers.
Jax says
Google maps is for cars besides gps is just a tool so many ways to avoid that issue. And elogs wtf does that have to do with killing someone . Just another steering wheel holder