I’m hearing that the ipd kits remedy some of the weak points on these. That’s probably the route I’m going to end up going just because I can’t afford oem cat.
But the heads have fixed the cylinder 6 cooling problem, I believe they come with 2 piece steel top pistons. So you would have to do the dual Oiler jet cooler conversion. I think ipd lists the part numbers you need to order for those parts
3406 3zJ/7fb rebuild
Discussion in 'Heavy Duty Diesel Truck Mechanics Forum' started by HotRod359, Mar 20, 2020.
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Boys I will be honest I have ran some #### hot B models. Watch the gauges and I have never melted a piston. The wider rod of a C model is all hype in my honest opinion. I have covered many miles in a 85 400hp 7fb at 1950 rpm all night at 85 to 90k with a cow bus behind me. My stoutest stock combo was a 5YG which was a 460 peec. We put a 4MG pump on it and a borg turbo...it would hang with most. Thing about a B is timing and overhead set including bridge adjustment.
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@wore out thanks for the insight. I’m on a hard budget here. Not sure if maybe I’m better off just sticking stock 3zj parts in it for now. Just cause I know it’ll run, but it’ll be a boring engine... Then I can rebuild the 7fb I have sitting in the shop with the god stuff
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Well the cylinder kits cost the same either way. So the nozzles will be the extra expense. Just remember nozzles have to match pistons and a C pump will push B nozzles but a B wont push C nozzles very long. All that said I have a good friend that has a mostly stock 3ZJ with a 15 over and 3.55's on tall 24's....thing is a legend around home. Nothing wrong with a 3ZJ when they right
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Turns out the engine in need of a rebuild is a 3ZJ as well.
Came out of a 1992 Peterbilt.
Good to know these B models are great pullers when set up right.
The engine that’s currently occupying the frame space in the 1992 pulls a 5 axle b-train with authority. Better than the 1998 475 hp 6TS 3406E I’m driving right now.
Except it likes to drink it’s fuel....Last edited: Mar 22, 2020
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That’s interesting, I have tall rubber on 24’s as well with .358 rears. Double over 13 swapped into a 359. Must be running similar rpm to your friend. 80mph no problem if I had the power for it lol. I usually do 60 anyways tho.
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The 1992 with the 3ZJ I was told used to have 24.5 rubber which allowed it to go up to 80 mph. Not sure if it’s capable of that with a loaded trailer. More likely while empty.
It was swapped out to 22.5 rubber but still the same gearing.
With a loaded trailer, it gets to 65 pretty good but then falls off after.
The 87 Pete gets to 75 mph with a loaded trailer but it’s not as fast at get up and go as the 92. So likely the governor in the 92’s pump is limiting fuel at so many rpms.HotRod359 Thanks this. -
Both use the 100-7408 or 20R-7546 camshaft. As you noted, difference will be piston cooling jets.
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Thanks for that info I ended up ordering the oem 3zj kit for this build. I’m trying to keep it cheap, and then I’ll rather build the 7fb I have sitting in the shop
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