The contact names on the web ad (googled Front Range Community College CDL) seem familiar. They either work for US Truck or Sage, can't remember! Very interesting though.
I have been trying to be very careful because of all the scams out there!
Sage School, Henderson CO
Discussion in 'Trucking Schools and CDL Training Forum' started by Squeezebox, Aug 28, 2009.
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Hi Drew, at this point I'm positive that I will go to Sage. I meet with Jefferson County on the 16th to speak to a counselor. Then my file goes in front of a board for final approval. If all goes well I should get the grant. Keeping my fingers crossed. When I went to check out US Trucking, I saw a friend who got the WIA grant and was doing the school there. I have a call onto him to get the skinny on US Trucking. Why don't you call Sage and check it out for yourself. I'm working with Bonnie (the director) 800-204-2418. Use newbie's have to stick together! I will keep you posted...
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I'm still on the fence about doing this squeeze! I'd have already done it if the economy and the trucking industry wasn't in such a dump right now. The horror stories from EVERY company out there right now have me second guessing whether I should ditch the decent job I have right now for something that could end up being a disaster.
The notion I'm gathering of the trucking industry is that it's being turned into yet another higher skilled occupation that used to enjoy higher wages, into a low wage industry. The bigger companies can now dictate the industry and they're basically a racket at this point. Their new business model is to create as much turnover in the industry so driver wages will stay rock bottom, so they can compete in an industry chock full of low freight rates and what not. Plus, they make money from government grants training students, so the training aspect of the big trucking companies is just as much a part of why they operate as moving freight. From my research, many of the driver friendly smaller companies have gone belly up or been bought out by the monsters.
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I hear where your coming from Drew! I was in the Mortgage biz for a while, after that went to pot a few years ago, I went through a hard time financially. I tried my hand at waitering (at 51 years old) and that sucked because of the economy also. Two things I got going for me is that we have no debt and my girl friend of many years owns her own mortgage biz and wants to drive with me. Hopefully as a "team" we will have a better chance in the trucking industry. Plus she can still do the few mortgages she gets each month while on the road. Like I always say "I came here looking for a job, I can leave here looking for a job"!
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"Also, someone mentioned the multiple guys in the back of the truck 'observing' thing. A rep at Sage a few years ago told me this was illegal in Colorado because of seat belt laws- not sure if that's true or not. "
At most schools or companies that have a CDL class, they have a tractor with a sleeper. The sleeper doesn't actually have a bed in it. They take the bed out and put in a bench seat, and yes, it does have seatbelts. I'm not saying Sage does any of this, as I am not familiar with them. I am just saying that some people go to school believing, as the instructor or recruiter told them, that the driving portion of the training is 1on1. Many companies, even some that are legit, say this. It is semantics. Yes, it's 1 on 1 because he's in the passenger seat. They just omit the fact that there may be 3 or 4 other students observing from the bench in back and they count your back seat observation as time driving. They will tell you that you will get 40 hours of driving, but again, it's semantics. What you actually get is 40 hours in a moving truck. Of that 40, you may only get a portion-some as low as 6-8 hours total "behind the wheel" before testing.Trekker1 and Squeezebox Thank this. -
Everyone, In a previous post I said that Sage in CO was PTDI Certified. I got this info after speaking with Bonnie the director at Sage. I called PTDI direct to verify this info. The lady at PTDI called Sage and she spoke to Bonnie...I was miss lead by Sage...THEY ARE NOT PTDI CERTIFIED!!!!!!! Sage "just's follow the PTDI's curricilum". I do not want to miss lead anyone. Does anyone tell the truth anymore????
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I need to make another correction! It was not Bonnie the director at Sage in Henderson that I spoke with. It was another person! She did in fact give me the wrong info. I truely need to make this clear to everyone who reads this post. The person who gave me the wrong info will never do it again. I went as far as calling Sage corporate. I'm sure that I will go to Sage for my trainng. They are very professional and I feel I will get very good training there. So again all I'm sorry for post incorrect info.
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I'm from Colorado too and financial help would be great as the company/school I'm attending requires me to pay up front. How much time would I need to get this in order and can you point me in the right direction?
That's quite a shock coming from Sage about the PTDI. I've honestly heard nothing but good things about that school.
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Hi Lynchmob,
I did make a correction about Sage. Please read!!! The lady that told me they were PTDI Certified made a mistake. I don't think it was made to miss lead me. She just didn't know better. I did call Sage Corporate and she was told to never say it again. The best thing about Sage is One on One driver training. CDL School will put 2 to 3 drivers in the same tractor. I do not want to sit and watch others drive!
I live in Jefferson County and I meet with a consular on Wednesday to see if I qualifiy for the WIA Grant (Workforce Initiative Act). Do not have to pay back and they will pay up to $5000 towards school. Had to go to the courthouse a few time, but well worth my efforts! -
I graduated from the Sage school in Henderson in August 2007. Its a good place to go to school IMO - the course teaches a lot of things that the CDL training at my company doesn't. At the time, the actual road driving was done one-on-one with an instructor; manuevering practice on the pad is one instructor and an individual student in a truck/multiple trucks working at the same time s s. As a plus (and this is important) they do show you how to go down a mountain grade properly - a lot of drivers who think they can just bomb down a grade end up dead, and it's scary the numbers of semis that go downgrade at 90mph.
US Truck Driving School over in Arvada puts 5 guys in the sleeper, and the worst driver gets the time. Don't know about the place in Aurora. Avoid the scam up on I76 past Hudson.
I remember Bonnie from when I was there - she got a promotion when Rob Lyon left the school. I thought she was ok, but I can't say how she runs the school now.Twicebit Thanks this.
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