Observations from roadside inspections

Discussion in 'Trucking Industry Regulations' started by Mike_MD, Sep 12, 2009.

  1. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Unfortunately eckz warnings dor the most part do not work. I'll give warnings quite often, and only to stop the same driver with the same problems. I write citations as well, and my experience with repeat driver's is this, after receiving a citation the driver (s) have corrected the issue at hand. That doesn't mean I write citations for everything. I have the violations that I write citations for and the violations that I write warnings for. There has been instances in the past that I've written a warning for a equipment violation only to inspect the same truck months later with the same violation. This time that violation is a citation and it's usually a hefty one for not repairing the violation in the time frame allowed. We could have this arguement all day, industry vs. enforcement. The fact of the matter is this, like it or not, the industry you have chosen as a profession is one that is tightly regulated. You and me, we are not going to change that. You can beat your head against the wall until you knock yourself out, it's not going to matter. You know this going in to it, you have things you have to do. It's that simple, it'sin black and white so there is no "news flash" that this came out of left field.

    I agree you have some valid points, but you also have so ridiculous claims as well. So quit beating your head against the wall, you know what you have to do, just do it. The better you do it, the better off you will be. And like you said, if all driver's did their job, I wouldn't have one. However after conducting over 10,000 inspections I can tell you, my job will be around forever. As Mike stated, some of the trucks we se on the highway would make you cringe to know you are riding amongst them.
     
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  3. eckz

    eckz <strong>"Radio Rambo"</strong>

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    I don't disagree with you, bear, you are right. But it's still aggravating to those of us that do abide by the law. As far as getting into an industry that's tightly regulated, new policies and ideas are coming out from the FMCSA and the DOT almost weekly, it's getting tighter and tighter!
     
  4. TheRumRunner

    TheRumRunner Light Load Member

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    get in the car junior, we in hot pursuit!!!!!
     
  5. Winchester Magnum

    Winchester Magnum Road Train Member

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    ^ That's funny LOL!

    Anyway, I can see the points everyone has made here and they're all quite valid. As with most anything in life, follow the money...

    A tax is a fine for doing well. A fine is a tax for not doing well.
     
  6. dieselbear

    dieselbear Road Train Member

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    Winchester, that is a great statement. I have never heard it put that way, but a lot of truth to it.
     
  7. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    Yeah I want to hear Buford T Justice's input! :biggrin_2559:
     
  8. Jacob6875

    Jacob6875 Light Load Member

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    You keep saying that cars are not inspected because they do not weigh as much. OK thats fine but what about RVS? NO idea what these weigh but I'm pretty sure those 50 foot RVS towing a 20 foot boat could do some pretty good damage if they hit something. Yet there breaks are never inspected and anyone can go and buy one (without a CDL) and drive it for 30 hours straight 100% legally. I could even have some kind of medical condition that would bar me from driving a commercial vehicle.

    It simply dosen't make sense that truckers are set to such a high standard and car and RV drivers are not.
     
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  9. Roadmedic

    Roadmedic Road Train Member

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    Motorhomes can weigh in the neighborhood of 30,000 lbs and then the weight of the tow vehicle or trailer.

    Some of those combos with the long trailer behind them exceed the length of a normal truck.
     
  10. outerspacehillbilly

    outerspacehillbilly "Instigator of the Legend"

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    They sure do and how many times have you seen a little old lady or man who look like they could be advertisements for a nursing home driving them? I know I see them all the time.
     
  11. Mike_MD

    Mike_MD Medium Load Member

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    In essence the system works as you describe, the vehicle is inspected and when the defects warrant an OOS the vehicle is fixed by a mechanic of your choice. The inspector identified the defects now you can fix them.

    It is the company’s responsibility to inspect and repair the trucks/trailers before they break down or cause an accident. Too many companies have the philosophy of I’ll fix it when it’s broke.



    I suppose it never hurts to ask; however, I expect the system to pay for repairs to trucks about the time Hades freezes over. O/O’s and companies are offered a tax break for expenditures related to their operation. It is the responsibility of the company and O/O to purchase equipment roadworthy and keep it that way, not the general public.



    Double the motivation, besides we all know the odds are in your favor so when you do get caught the penalty has to be significant to assure you think twice the next time. You chose to violate the rules and got caught. You have to weigh the consequences of the bad choice before you get caught. If the payoff is appropriate then live with the results.



    All drivers are susceptible to the general rules of the road, i.e. speeding, littering, following too close, etc. In addition to those rule commercial motor vehicles (CMV) used in the furtherance of commerce have additional safety regulations. Depending on the type of operation the rules were either mandated by the US Congress or the State’s Congress. Either way the rules were brought about by your elected official. Once the elected officials voted and made the bill a law the law was made into an enforceable administrative rule. The difference between a law and a rule is, you can be penalized, arrested, and sent to prison for breaking the law, when you violate a rule you are subject to a penalty. Some rules are laws and a driver or company may be charged with a crime or a violation of a rule, i.e. 49 CFR Part 395.3 pertains to the 11/14 and 60/70 hours is a rule; whereas, 49 USC Section 31151 pertains to CMVs and Safety Regulations is a law. CFR = Code of Federal regulations; USC United State Code. Depending on the severity of the incident a driver or carrier may be prosecuted criminally.

    Why is transportation companies singled out? Because some companies willfully violate the safety regulations and have caused the death of a passing motorist or their employee or both due to their neglect. Some people place profit over safety and have caused mayhem in the process. For those occasions the incident is investigated and the appropriate citation is applied, i.e. rule violation or broke the law, and the person/s responsible are prosecuted as deemed appropriate. To ensure it is clear that unsafe drivers and equipment will not be tolerated drivers and carriers are penalized when the safety violations are discovered. No violation…. No penalty.



    No one ever said you were; however, transportation companies are using the vehicles to make a profit. The rules are designed to deter people from violating the rules to make more money. When people are caught adding to their bottom line when violating the safety regulations they are penalized in hopes they will cease the practice.



    Then you should write a letter to your elected official and request the rules be changed. The rules establish the “Applicability” of the law and regulation. If the rule doesn’t apply then the rule cannot be enforced. Within the rules are limits of when the rule can be enforced, if an officer exceeds their jurisdiction they have broke the law or violated the rule as well.

    All rules are announced by a “Notice of Proposed Rule Making” (NPRM) which allows the public to speak their mind before the rule is initiated. Some times the public wins and the rule is withdrawn or revised based on the public’s comments and the spirit of the rule based on the law it was designed to enforce. However, once the rule is in place then the rule is enforced. In the case of CMVs:

    I perform vehicle inspections at scales because I do not have traffic enforcement authority. Technically the state stopped the vehicle at the scale, I now have jurisdiction to inspect the vehicle.



    The FMCSA is the sub component within the US DOT that is responsible for enforcing the safety regulations 49 CFR Parts 100 – 199 and 300 – 399. The FMCSA develops rules based on what Congress asked. If you’re not happy with what is being proposed write your elected officials.

    When an RV is used in commerce it is fully regulated, i.e. CDL, log DOT medical, etc. Some occasions when RVs are in commerce include, drive-away tow-away operations, when the RV is used to transport commercial goods for sale at fairs, or car shows etc.

    Mom and pop on vacation are not in commerce; therefore the FMCSR do not apply.

    Be safe.
     
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