“The brokers make too much”

We all hope.

 

Exactly! The bucket stop with us. We are the ones doing the job, therefore we
Must dictate the rates.

 

No one is as blind as those who will not see.

 

You can be sure I’m going to absolutely hammer their ##### into oblivion. (The brokers)

 

Imagine if someone comes on here saying that we need to all be running 2015 or newer trucks by next year. After all the work that you’ve put into your Fld it’s now a piece of yard art because someone else thinks they know what is best for you.

 

Well , we will open for sure. How much we stay open and thrive economically is another question as rising virus cases and deaths crest another wave. A significant part of the economy will stay depressed, and for a long time. But y’all have to tell me how rates are during a depression. That said, nobody alive will have seen one like this one.

 

Alright, see you almost got it but missed the forest for the trees. Just for ####z and giggles I’ll play your silly game.
Let’s sayJay had a manager that knew what he was doing, do you think NBC was telling that manager how big the pie was or was it his managers job to know how big the pie was and what he should demand? A good manager would have known, he would have also known what would be the bottom line and when to get up and walk away.
So in our scenario it isn’t the brokers job to tell you how big the pie is. It’s your job as your companies manager to know. It’s also your job to know when to say no and walk away. To many out here don’t know when to say no and think something is better than nothing. Once all the bottom feeders are gone then the rates will go back up. Too many out here only know how to operate when they had the advantage, when the shoe is on the other foot they all start crying about thing not being fare, trying to do away with a huge industry. Not gonna happen.
Now I Am all for stopping the double brokering, the bait and switch, listing the same loads multiple times with p/u or drops in different cities, canceling loads cause the found a cheaper truck. As far as detention that should be in your negotiation with the broker and shouldn’t matter if the shipper or receiver pays it or not. You don’t work for them, you work for the broker.
So my question now is, does your company have a manager that knows how big the pie is and how big your slice should be, and how to get it, or, are you just lining up and taking what they offer and then going and #####ing about it not being big enough?

 

Yeah but sailboat fuel is the only thing you can haul for cheap that helps another trucker instead of hurt him. Hauling actual cargo cheap hurts you and the other trucks in the long run.

 

@Dino soar

You have some good points and i hope you dont feel like im shooting you down too hard, i just didnt want my already excessive posts to get longer by quoting you.

I do see some merit in the shippers detention rate being on a brokers ratecon. I just dont have much faith that the govt will reign in the con artist brokers that lie about everything and screw everyone they can anyway. For instance say the law says the detention needs to be on the ratecon and its $75/hr but they turd broker puts zero or $25. Now youre desperate carrier is agreeing to completely forego detention pay or take little, while the broker will surely collect more or all. Will thengovt review process stop this? Maybe some day, 3 presidents from now.

Wife and i had a tenant. Seemed great at first. soon stops payment and racked up all our utilities, starts calling the cops on us. A disaster, couldnt get her out, lost the house by the time we did.

She is completely healthy, goes jogging with her dog but collects disability and SSI for "copd" that she does not have. Shes screwing with my income, so i can play dirty too. I call and report the fraud directly. Years later she still collects it all.

I have no faith in govt anymore and i worked for it 5 years. I only ever see them regulate honest working people who probably dont need to be meddled with at all.

Yeah, transparency will help some new carriers get the nerve up to demand more but we could just educate each other and skip whatever evil side comes as a rider on the bill to regulate brokers. There is always a rider. Id rather beat the same dead horse every week than see govt get more power.

 

You could look at it that way but that's been going on since the beginning of time. They don't have to know what the rate is to undercut it goes on all the time.

And what they are proposing is that after you sign the rate con the Carrier sees what the rate actually is. It's probably not public knowledge for all other brokers which maybe they will find out maybe they won't. Who cares?

The real problem with undercutting is that when broker B undercuts from broker A he looks at how much profit is left and then tries to make it up by giving the Carrier a dollar a mile. Then you hear everyone's favorite- that's all I have in that load I can't give you any more.

Sure you don't have to take it but as this goes on over here and over there and over there and over there multiplied there is a good portion of your low rates.

If it is transparent the broker is gonna have to figure out how much money hes willing to make it how much hes willing to let go of to the Carrier. But hes going to have to do it transparently which would be a better thing.

Then as brokers bid on freight they have to actually keep in mind how much money they're going to make by the bid not just by how much they try to stiff the Carrier.

It is in their best interest to get the highest price.

Nothing in life is perfect nothing works for everyone.

But this is the best solution for everyone.