Prime- only newbies sing the praises 2

Discussion in 'Report A BAD Trucking Company Here' started by cactusjack, Sep 21, 2009.

DO YOU THINK PRIME TREATS DRIVERS EQUAL AND FAIRLY?

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    NOPE THEY TEND TO CATER MORE TO THE COMPANY DRIVER!

    12.4%
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    NO THEY CATER MORE TO THE LEASE OPERATOR!

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    EVERYONE IS TREATED FAIRLY!

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    EVERYONE IS ON THEIR OWN!

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  1. cactusjack

    cactusjack Medium Load Member

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    i totally agree and i will not be replying to any hostile posts .... I hope that the trucker friends on this side wanting to keep this open will ignore the remarks of others as well..... Other than argue just say.... Whatever thanks for your opinion... Might be better served to get the word out about prime and its practices! One last thing thank you to all my trucker friends that feel the same as i do about getting the truth out there so others do not make the same mistake!
     
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  3. cactusjack

    cactusjack Medium Load Member

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    i totally agree with you ...... This is what disturbs me about prime.... It was their business agreement with a. Passmore ..... It was agreed that passmore would give over control for said time and passmore would be an silent partner for said period of time ..... This was done by an hand shake and the deal was done.... Until passmore was in discussions with prime and found out words and a hand shake does not mean everything to some like it does to most of us good ol' boys..... Obviously i wont go into details.... But some of ya will know exactly what i mean about that deal.... My take on it is all a man has is his word and once he shakes on it .... It is gold!
    Once that trust has been broken it will never be right by me again !
    Definately shows the mind set of prime !..... I will not talk about this subject again!.... Other than to reply broken promises on an hand shake ..... Might as well be an horse thief!!!
     
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  5. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    Hey fella!

    So what you're saying is you didn't do an adequate job inspecting the truck (not that I necessarily would have caught that either!) - and you still signed the lease knowing the ramifications of a serious breakdown - unless you didn't read the lease.

    The problem with freight rates is that the service supplier (trucking companies, owners, independent operators) don't set the rates. In fact, in the current economy (and ever since deregulation basically) the shippers have set the rates. At some point even Prime has to take a bite out of the big crap sandwich that is freight these days - or they go out of business like many others.

    Not entirely... given two trucks on the same board in the same area, the FM has more input on which load goes where than you would suspect. Load planners at Prime don't have final say on who gets the loads. Had this discussion with a couple of different FMs and the reefer ops guy.

    That's just not true. I ask for and get the linehaul and fuel surcharge number on every load I pull... mostly so I can make an informed decision on leasing that so many who feel that "Prime screwed them" haven't. There's enough of a mix of rates there to show me that what you are saying about company drivers only receiving low-paying loads is flat out wrong.

    Just as every other trucking company in this country would. Don't kid yourself... there are no white knights where legal liability for an accident is concerned. You're on your own.

    And this is different than employment where? In what industry??

    It was explained to me that this was mostly done to make it easier to manage company employees vs independent contractors. Different issues. And yeah, from what I've seen - and I've been with Prime longer than you were I believe - this is pretty much the case.

    On a 10-hour break?? Illegal and stupid to do something like that. Prime doesn't pay us anything to unload - it would be different if we got what the lumpers are paid. Besides, there's a paper trail. If I'm on the dock, I'm on line 4.

    My experience with Prime is obviously different than yours. It's left a bad taste in your mouth, and I can't say that I blame you. However, there are plenty of us - including lease ops - who are making it, and don't feel that way about the company. I've talked to people driving for all of the companies you mentioned above, who feel that they have a good deal too - and many who haven't. Spare me the juvenile comments... there are more than enough of them on this forum.
    Well... its either that or pay for the wrecker, expense of using a T/S maintenance facility, and having a truck out of service. Formerly, Prime did a good job of taking care of maintenance, and that's one of the things I've always liked about the company. Paul Higgins has taken over maintenance, and I've noticed a change in the way things are done. Got a laundry list of items that need to be fixed on my tractor before winter, so we'll see how I feel after rotating through the shop - probably Pittston if I can work it.

    I'm certainly making more money than you did... so I'd say that statement only applies to you!
     
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  6. Attitude Adjuster

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    You are basically agreeing with most of what I said. My truck made 24,000 in revenue in 4 months. That is more than you will probably make this year. BTW Prime got all of it. Boo hoo.
     
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  7. badsey

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    Every fleecer knows you need 2-3 in that truck to make it work. Why work so #### hard as a driver when you can just wear the Prime jacket and be the teacher. =You need to tote the company line more to make it work for you!

    Prime/CRE motto: Live by the Fleece, Die by the Fleece. Fleece lives another day (and another driver).
     
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    Ok how many people have taken over the maintenance at Crime Inc.????
     
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    By the time you add up all the wasted hours and expenses driving on your own you begin to see all the benefits of faking it as a trainer.
     
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  10. ironpony

    ironpony Road Train Member

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    I made $47k last year... not too bad actually.
     
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  11. cactusjack

    cactusjack Medium Load Member

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    It is well known in the trucking industry there is an high turn over rate especially when it comes to the newbees. 85% of newbees do not make it past their first year and half of the remainder make it past the second year and half of them make it past the third. Once you get past the fourth year you should be good to go and if you are fortunate to make as little as 47k your second or third year you should be considering your self lucky. The last 9 years that i have been trucking up to this one i have been making over 72k per year. I consider my self lucky. I also consider my self lucky to have not been in an large conglamorite company that makes you an number and not an assett. The trucks that i have drove have either been ungoverned or running at least 75 mph. Yes there is trucking companies out there that still give the power to the drivers. I would not know what to do in an company that tells their drivers where to fuel at and how much fuel to get at said stop..... Sounds kinda like they want to be your baby sitters...... And whats up with companies telling a driver to watch idle times or flat out not to idle and then not accomidate the drivers with an apu. Just does not make sense to me. But things will not change when we have so many newbee drivers that are compliant with these big companies and when they get screwed over by these big companies in the end there will be an new yahoo to take that seat and the wheel keeps going round and round. The government has to be blamed by their insentive plans to give companies 700 an week to put students in their trucks and more for the welfare recipiants. How wonderful for these newbees they get to play smokey and the bandit and guess what now they get a little taste of what it was like to be truck drivers but are just steering wheel holders in the long run.
    Old time truckers will know just what i mean.
    My first few years as an truck driver was great back in 93 is when i started and the freedom of trucking was dissapearing back then .
    Now there is hardly any breathing room at all for new drivers and even the experienced because of all of the high turn overs due to insurance companies and big companies getting greedy with all of the government programs . Lets face it if the company gets 700 a week for an newbee and pays the newbee 400 the company just made 300 tax free and the newbee is paid 400 taxable....... Now who is the real winner and in whoms intrest is it to keep that cycle going.
    Now when it comes to fleece..... Its an win , win for the company as well.... Get the truck payment from the driver.... Get the truck driver to pay insurance and reefer fuel.... Wow sign me up for that....
     
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