Need help deciding, wanting to O/O again

Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by reefertank, Aug 28, 2020.

  1. reefertank

    reefertank Light Load Member

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    The first time I did o/o, I purchased an emissions truck for around $25,000 with 900k miles on it. The engine had an OH done to it and everything seemed to work fine. Put maybe $2,000 into replacing some wear and tear items, but not serious issues. I quit because I wanted to try trading. I made nearly $250,000 in the stock market, but lost a good chunk and burned through most of it after 3 years of living like a bum. I've been a company driver for some months and am itching to get my own business going again. I've been doing some shopping and narrowed my choices down to the following 2:

    #1. $37,000 - 2013 Freightliner CORONADO 122 SD 500hp Cummins ISX 15 with 415,000 miles on the odo.
    #2. $34,000 - 2003 Kenworth W900L 500hp Cummins ISX with 1.6 million miles on chasis and 120,000 miles on Out of frame OH. It also recently got a clutch job done. This is pre-emission. The frame is in good condition.

    Between these 2, which would you go with?

    The price for the 2013 would go up a little higher, probably ~$39,000 because of the following:

    I did some research and found out that I would need to do some kind of conversion / replacement on the fuel pump? And I think it would run around $1,000 in parts alone? Then buy parts to convert the heat exchange cooler to an air cooler for the transmission, which is roughly $300-400 in parts? And if it hasn't been done yet, learn to do an EGR tune up.

    If I do these 2 fixes, i should dramatically cut risk down for major repair bills... or am i dreaming? And I forgot to mention, 65 idling hours on the 2013!
     
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    201 Road Train Member

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    Before you even think about a truck, a hauling contract today is much more important. Trucks are dime a dozen. In these iffy times, O/O's are failing at an alarming rate. Just can't compete with the megas. Insurance will kill ya'. If, by some miracle, you find a gig that actually pays, go with the K-Whopper. I'd take a per-emission K-Whopper with a BILLION miles over ANY Freightliner,,,but that's me.
     
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  4. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    You also need to think about how long you are planning on being in the business. Because for the first 5 years company driver makes more than an O/o. But after that the O/o starts to pull ahead. So if you are going to end up jumping out of it after a while like before. It's not worth it.
     
  5. NorthEastTrucker

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    This is a video regarding their purchase of a used 2015 Freightliner & repairs. What caught my attention was her professionalism and enthusiasm during the making of the video trying to inspire other newbies who want to become O/O's. @ 6:40 she did explain truck expenses on their (her & her husband's truck) I remember her saying @4:25 their total Gross that week of $17,800. 12% to their Carrier ($2136) & rest of her expense.

    Skipping forward she says that they have a truck loan for the used truck. As I'm watching this with my wife I'm saying 'Why Not just buy a New Truck..?..'

    Regardless, that is the route they took.

    Later in the video she says they earned $12,750 net @5:45. 1st of the year.

    As I spoke to my wife while watching this video also noticing the self gratitude occurring. I thought if I go to a newer up to date video you will 'See & Note' they have a different opinion on their 5 year old Freightliner. Ironically I was correct!.. @ 10:54 to 11:56.

    No one is perfect & they took a chance. However, Specking out the right truck for the job is a 1st & necessity something they didn't do.

    After being around trucks more than half my life Experience does help. IMO I don't like problems on the highways and roads and if you're driving otr if someone can afford it the best scenario is New with the right warranties.
     
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  6. reefertank

    reefertank Light Load Member

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    Not asking if it's a good idea to become and o/o. I know what I'm getting myself into. Gig is good. I just need those with experience to help me choose which truck to buy. My main concern is power train reliability, engine.

    And I don't want to rely on warranties, I hate being in the shops, I'd rather tackle most jobs on my own including reading codes, hence the reason both trucks have Cummins.

    Lack of maintenance or sheer neglect is why most trucks have issues. As for these new EPA trucks, I want to believe it's all that spot build up and long oil change intervals that lead to failures or constant codes. Am I wrong?

    To be very honest, I am leaning towards the 2013. The Kenworth is very cool but it's 10 years older.. my concern is not so much about the engine, it's everything else. But if I do what I s
    Said in my original post on the 2013, and the risk is still high, then I'd lean towards the Ken.
     
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  7. Wasted Thyme

    Wasted Thyme Road Train Member

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    Then probably posted in the wrong forum. Probably needs to be in 18 wheelers. Since it is an equipment question.
     
  8. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Even with the extra cost you mentioned, if it were me, I'd go with the Freightliner. You can't go wrong with a fuel efficient vehicle. Cascadias are reliable. Over my time of driving, it's seems to have been the easiest to find someone to work on the Freightliners. You're still probably about 100k miles or so from the DPF needing to be cleaned out, and if you catch before you gotta get towed it won't be a super huge expense. Go for the freightshaker!!!!
     
  9. Kshaw0960

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    I have 2 old trucks and 3 newish trucks. My vote is to get the newer one and do the unicorn repair.

    The 2 older ones are very reliable engine wise but I swear the repair bills nickel and dime me to death. They are getting something fixed every weekend it seems. The repairs aren’t expensive, it’s the missed income from being unable to work that kills.
     
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