2007 9400i not cranking

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  1. 062

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    Another possibility is a bad solenoid. I’ve had solenoid,starter,blower motor etc. that were junk out of the box.
     
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  3. Bama1

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    Batteries are your problem, load test them and find the bad one. To cold to start...batteries. Turn the blower motor off starts. Batteries, you bypass everything that needs voltage to open relays to start by your hammer jump. Your truck will start with one battery or one bad battery will drain the other 3 if it’s bad. Like the other guy said load check your batteries.
     
  4. Heavyd

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    If you have to shut off the blower motor to correct this intermittently, I would say you have base cab power supply problem. Check the big copper bus bar in the fuse panel with the two big power studs with all the red wires on them, these are your battery feeds. Your solenoid at the firewall is triggered by a smaller pink wire. This is getting power from your key switch in the cranking position. This wire is likely losing power somewhere. It leaves the key switch as pink wire number 17, then goes to an adaptor block and becomes pink 17B then out the firewall. I don't know where the adaptor block is, but you can just run a new wire if needed. The solenoid just grounds to the firewall I believe. I would take off that pink wire at the solenoid, make sure the connector is ok, then test for power while someone holds the key in the crank position. You might have to wiggle the wiring to find your bad spot.
     
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    UPDATE: I believe I've fixed it. I'll update if not. Wire 17B going from key to firewall solenoid was making a bad connection at solenoid. When I pulled off the wire to verify voltage with key in starting position, it fired up with 12 volts. I stuck it back on the solenoid, and the truck cranked. So I cleaned the inside of that bullet connector with emery, and put some DC-111 inside it. If it fails again, I'll cut that connector off, and add a regular eyelet.
     
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    UPDATE: I did NOT fix it. Today, I decided to get serious with the meter, and found the wire 17D coming off that solenoid, and going over to the starter. Metered to verify continuity, and that it was the same wire. It was paired with another, and had the rubber part of a weatherpack on them. No sign of rest of connector. Then I found it in the starter. The wires had been ripped out. I assume they're part of the over crank protection. I think the only reason the truck ever cranked was because they were covered in enough oil and crud to make a connection. I used a jumper wire on them, and the truck cranked. Undid the jumper, and no crank. Did that several times to make sure. Then I butt-connectored them together, and it's fixed. Finally.
     
  7. Tug Toy

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    I chased intermittently starting issues on my international for the last 3 years. Several sets of batteries and at least 3 starters. Grounds, key switch, relays etc.


    Finally that last time I did the starter I had all new cables made up. They looked fine on the ends and outside but when I cut them open they were full of creepy green death.
    Now it’s been a year without one single problem.
    I think the low voltage was killing the starters. Always did well for a couple of months after new stater then would just get worse and worse. 78544BE9-24DC-4917-BDD2-66544CB4CF38.jpeg
     
  8. BUMBACLADWAR

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    Had a 75 disco Nova that developed that same issue. Ends of cable were great. After removing red cable...I could see where. It had the "green death". Apparently years of water dripping or slung under fender.
     
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