Company tells me drive route that is longer more miles?

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  1. Lennythedriver

    Lennythedriver Road Train Member

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    Lol, never!
     
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  3. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Not an "all evens out in the end" type of situation. I'd be job shopping but that's just me.
     
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  4. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    So would I, but it would be more for the indignity of being questioned about my choice of routing.

    If the freight gets delivered on time and the work gets done, nobody has any right to complain as far as I’m concerned.
     
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  5. Lennythedriver

    Lennythedriver Road Train Member

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    I agree with you on pretty much everything you stayed here but I think you’re missing part of the point. I to have taken an alternate route that was a little longer to save some time, avoid construction, whatever 101 reasons that come out there for us to do so. But that’s my choice as a driver. It’s like a pilot flying around a storm. He comes on the intercom and says it’s gonna take 30 minutes longer before we land because we’re going around a storm. My issue is the company is saying “here’s the miles were paying for”. Even when I take my chosen shortest route it’s still about 80 miles off. 80 miles I’m not getting paid for. There is no route at all for me to make it to their destination without driving 80 miles on my own time. Then on top of it when I start driving the shortest route that I can find which is a major interstate, they called me up and say I need to take the other route. The other route adds another 60 miles or so to the destination. When I tell them that’s 100 and some miles of free driving, can you at least add the difference since you’re forcing me to go even a further route? They say they can’t do that.

    There is no other viable explanation that a company can come up with other than “they are ripping you off”. It is cold, brutal in your face, we don’t care what you think, we know you know, we’re going to rip you off anyways”. You can spin it anyway you want, as management, but that’s what it is. So when a company does stuff like this and they advertise that they’re paying, say $.50 per mile, you’re actually probably getting about $.44 per mile.

    I understand the formula now that they use, ZIP Code the ZIP Code and all that. I understand that I’m going to drive a little over on most loads and there’s no way around that. But when it’s like for example a 500 mile load and you’re driving 50 miles or more extra, that’s time to say something. When it’s a 1200 mile load and you’re driving 120 miles extra, that’s when it’s time to say something.

    That’s when it’s time to go to the human resources department and say you need to change your advertising because you’re not paying $.50 per mile you were actually paying me about $.44-$.45 a mile.
     
  6. Long FLD

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    Find a company that pays hourly or pays the hub miles off the truck. Anything other than that you will be getting shorted on miles.

    The company job I had paid hub miles. We wrote down our beginning and ending odometer and turned it in with our paperwork weekly. We were expected to run the most reasonable route, but if there was a road closure or something all we had to do was call the office and let them know what we were doing and why.
     
  7. zodiacflyer

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    They aren't "ripping you off". It's more a case of corporate inertia. It sounds like they are using the House Hold Movers Guide Miles. Those run about 10% short and have been since the 1930s. Occasionally it will be about even, and rarely, 5-10% over. The most likely reason for them to not change it is that they probably have long-term customers that are also paying THEM on the basis of HHMG miles. They would be afraid of alienating those customers. By thier micromanaging ways, and overall communication style, it would appear that you are driving for a large fleet. My best advice would be to correct the issue on your end. Instead of #####ing about it on the internet, terminate your relationship and work for someone that if nothing else, will allow you to conduct your daily business as an adult.
     
  8. Lennythedriver

    Lennythedriver Road Train Member

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    I don’t drop names, so I can fuss all I want. You’re a other who is obviously ok with being stepped on. I have a pair, I’ll stand up for myself. It’s guys like you who go in the shippers and receivers and are treated like a red headed step child and you just go along with it. I’m not that guy. I don’t go through life like that. Some of y’all are OK with that but I’m not.

    If I bring a skill that I’m good at to the table and I do my part, I expect the company that writes my paycheck to also do their part. That being ethical, honest and straightforward.

    it’s really not too much to ask!
     
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  9. Lennythedriver

    Lennythedriver Road Train Member

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    Again, I understand being shorted. I understand the concept of ZIP Code to ZIP Code were using the atlas to calculate miles. Per my understanding they generally run 3 to 5% off, not 10 to 12%. Or even more. Do you guys realize how much you’re driving for free year-to-year when you give up 10% of your miles? I mean literally you’re talking about seven to $10,000. Imagine getting a check at the end of the year for like $8000.
     
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  10. Long FLD

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    Do you understand what hub miles are? That means when I was a company driver I got shorted exactly zero miles. If I put 2807 miles on the truck for the week I got paid for 2807 miles. Find a small company that pays hub miles and you will give up 0% of your miles.
     
  11. Rubber duck kw

    Rubber duck kw Road Train Member

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    Ok, we've told you, little old you is not going to change the way they've been doing buisness for as long as they've been in buisness. You can take them to court and probably get a court to order them to pay you all mile's, you think you're treated horribly now wait until after that circus. You have a couple choices, realize they're not going to change and find a new job, try getting a court to force them to change that's the worst option for you, or continue telling us how much of a man you are and how much of an issue you have with it. None of us are saying it's right, none of us are saying you should be grateful they're not shorting you more, but the only way they'll change is if they can't keep drivers. Just remember that the grass isn't always greener on the other side of the fence.
     
  12. Wasted Thyme

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    He's not going to learn. Having a "pair" and having common sense. Don't always go hand in hand. Hub miles are standard. They're normally short. But can be over. He's at a micromanaging mega. He has 3 options. Suck it up and drive their route. Be smart and look for another company. Or do what it sounds like he's planning. Which will result in him getting fired. Just cuz he's got a "pair."
     
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