CR England variable mileage payment ?!

i crunched numbers and found that 6.7 mpg is about the breakpoint for the fuel cap/ rebate program. if you can consistently get over 7 mpg, even with the crappy winter blend, its beneficial to be on the rebate, you actually pay a good deal less for fuel than the $1.25 cap price.
also, if your mileage drops for no reason, start looking at the regen system if equipped. cost me around $200.00 of fuel til i could get it fixed.

 

ok quick question, how much are you paying for your quarterly fuel tax using the rebate program?

the last person that was preaching the rebate program could not answer that.

we pay .015 a mile for the fuel tax

last quarter I only owed $86.00 and I received over $1000.00 back to my settlement.

I'm just trying to get some good info. but no one I talk to seems to know much about it.

now this one guy that was telling me how much he was savaging over the cap i asked about the fuel tax and he said he had them take .03 per mile so he could pay it. lol
another i asked the same question didn't know what i was talking about. but said being on the rebate is kinda tricky cas every 3 months seems to cost him a lot of money.

so I just smile shake my head and walk away. it's kinda sad people don't know how to read their settlements.

 

I was on the rebate before they dropped it .02 cents per mile. As for the fuel taxes. I have the same .015 come out that everyone does and I get anywhere from $300-$500 back per quarter. That was on the rebate. Now I really do not like the $1.25. I hate having to go to the most crowded truck stops. I miss the rebate but with the .02 gone its too hard to make money on the rebate. I am going to look into the regen system because my fuel mileage has dropped a lot. I have had everything checked out. The drop is about 1.5mpg which sucks. It is getting a lot harder to make money with England. Hopefully things will get better this year.

 

It really depends on where you get your fuel also. If you can get it in really cheap states you can come way out ahead. If they run you to the northeast it sucks. You get a laptop, get online a lot and learn where and how much fuel to get you can come out way ahead. Well, before they lowered the rebate. I found out I can rebate for about the same as the 1.25 now but it takes a lot more time and now I dont worry about going through the "expensive" fuel states. Even though I hate the 1.25

 

Easy to find out if You drive for them go to the website and sign in and look for it... I cant find the old pay schedule they had showing milage = pay. They also got rid of the school in Dallas, its not listed on the site anymore.

Note: Sorry they do have a smaller version of the pay plan but its changed not too long ago:
Complete Load LengthCents Per Mile< 100 Miles$1.53 101 - 200 Miles$1.28 201 - 300 Miles$1.13 301 - 400 Miles$1.03 401 - 500 Miles$0.95 501 + Miles$0.90 Empty/Deadhead Miles$0.80

 

They still have the fule cap but changed it from u having to make 5 paid miles per gallon to 5.8 paid miles per gallon an u have to fule at 75% of the places they tell u to, to qualify for the fule cap. They also lowered the empty mileage pay from .90 a mile to .80 a mile for which u stillhave to pay the same variable mileage pay of .14 a mile unless u use the rewards points to lower that down to the lowest rate of .06 mile which would take u yrs to do since to make those reward points they scam u with false log violations an u lose the 50 points that u would have gotten if u didnt get the false violation an even when u call to correct the matter an they resolve it in ur favor they dont give u those lost points back. Y would they help u lower that variable mileage?,lol

They also changed the pay rates that were on their posted scale without notifying us. I found out when normally anything over 1k miles u got the min of .90 a mile. i got a short run of 650 miles a saw they were still paying me t .90 a mile instead of $1.14 an was told that the pay scale had been changed last summer of '09. I guess i didnt get the memo on that 1 either

 

It appears, you're in error. Planners, DMs and other's cost ALREADY included in cost of freight!!!
Nobody really knows, what those .14cpm are for.
Based on little research I've conducted, that's for number of different things:
-fuel for company drivers, who don't know squat how to manage MPG, and don't have to.
-all office rats, whose too many over there
-maintenance of trailers, although they bull###ting that they pay for it themselves. Reallity appeares: Lease operators paying for everything!!!

Good luck to be screwed by England!!!!

 

"Nobody really knows, what those .14cpm are for."

actually they do tell you what the variable mileage payment is for...
it's part of your truck payment.

before they had the variable the truck payment was higher like 900 or better you have a new or newer truck under 3 years old that your leasing with no down payment and no credit check.

the drivers mainly solo drivers were complaining that they could not take home time as often cas when they did they would be in the negative for a few weeks till they built there trip packs back up (paid mileage)

so that's how the variable came about you pay for what you use.
but yes it does work out in the company's favor, cas if your running teams or your training you get more miles and you end up paying more than it was to begin with.

but that's why they reward you for doing your job correctly. with the awards program you can buy down the virilable millage, and put that money right back into your pocket.

 

Well, yes, they do tell you, however, it depends who you ask. All of them mention different things. And thanks for update: I never was told, that it's part of my truck payment. That's New!!!
I was told, it is to cover low cost of freight. So, you go figure.

Moreover, let's do the math: cheapest truck pmt is 476/wk, plus 700 in variable mlg, if I ran 5000 miles. That is 1176 per week, or 4704 per month. That is not to mention different stuff like insurance, maintenance account, and etc. Therefore, you literally bust your butt, running like phcyco, for $750 a week. What kind idiot one supposed to be to go with that? Even if truck pmt was officially raised to 700 instead of 476, and no variable mileage, it's still close to $500 into ones pocket!!!
And here we did not touch that notorious Fuel Cap, which is another can of worms. England gives you fuel for 1.25, and pockets all the rebates and surcharges that customers pay. Numbers are astronomical. I ran the math: if all that paid to the driver, you would pay between $.50 to one dollar for the gallon of fuel.
Therefore, to make long story short, you can make money with CRE only and only if you can outsmart them. Good luck.

For example, May Trucking has similar program, difference only: 5cpm goes to company, and out of those 5cpm 2.5cpm goes to your balloon account for truck purchase (if you want one).

Cheers!

 

All I keep seeing here is the complainers doing most of the talking.
I've been doing good since I started. I hit the ground running, and haven't stopped since. Come to think of it, I've quit companies that were tons worse than this. I would know, when the last one I was at was cutting my throat for some $25.00 an hr on prevailing wage work.
Here is a few suggestions for those of you who actually DO want to make some money.

Make a name for yourself. Get the load there on time every time without killing yourself. Don't refuse them, either. Your DM might be jockeying you into a position for a really good load.

Do it in a way that will get you there in as few pieces as possible.

Respect other drivers on the road. This will have a beneficial side effect of saving your brakes and fuel, not to mention your nerves.

Don't bother your DM unless you have a real problem. If your not calling, he will assume you are ok, like mine. Then when you DO have a problem, he will get to you #### near instantly, like mine.

Take care of your rig, even if you are a lease or company driver. If the wheels ain't turnin' you ain't making anything.

Inspect the trailer, inflate the tires and adjust the brakes. You'll get better mileage and your brakes will last longer.

Keep a good rapport with the staff at the home terminal, flirting (even with the guys, there is a way to do it without being gay) will get you farther than sourpuss.

Learn about the mechanical issues with your truck, and when you go to the yard to get service, they can't sell you what you don't need.

Watch your $ output, especially with mpg and out of route miles. Find legal shortcuts to make the trip shorter, and watch your mpg go up.

If you train, try to turn out the best students you can. I haven't had a complaint yet.

Keep your truck clean, its your suit of armor. Good looking trucks don't attract attention as a truck that isn't maintained, either.

Pay attention to your BOL and load assignment. Any fool knows you don't haul ice cream at +65 degrees. Use your better judgement.

I'm not going to weave a flag (I could) and bore you.
I know it looks impossible, but I've been averaging around $1300.00 per week since I've started. I've never had so much money in all my life!

Maybe later I will weave that flag. I have the formula, and I'm willing to share it.

dan