Ok, I'll admit right up front that I have absolutely no idea what I'm doing. I watched some YouTube videos, and found a trucking forum. Don't beat me up too much.
So if somebody wants to get into hotshot, there's obviously a huge expense for a truck, and the decision between new and used, pickup or medium duty.
I'm casually looking around, and I came across an early 90's FL60, 120k, 8.3 Cummins (P-pump), Allison 3000 series, for a fraction of what a 2 year old F350 with 150k would cost in my area, and an even smaller fraction of what a new truck would cost.
Where do you draw the line between an old truck that's built for the job, easier and cheaper to fix, and I'd have no payments, versus something newer, more refined, but wasn't really built for constant heavy hauling, and I'd be making payments on?
Thanks
Old truck, paid for, or new truck and payments
Discussion in 'Expediter and Hot Shot Trucking Forum' started by ispy, Feb 2, 2022.
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You must know something, you came here. Best of the best for advice here. While I don't advocate ANY truck purchase for about the next 400 years, if you must, and just starting out, by all means, get a cheapie. If you have had an account for years, and a new dependable truck is imperative to keep the account, THAT'S when you buy a new truck. There are literally so many used trucks, that's clearly not the issue. Most wanting to this, seem to concentrate on the actual truck itself, and not all the rest of the challenges facing an O/O today. Hotshot is on the lower end of the spectrum, but face the same as a class 8 owner. Word of caution, with a used truck, choose wisely. STAY AWAY from a dealer, and try and find a truck being sold by the owner. Usually, they can provide everything that's been done, like you say, for a fraction. Keep in mind, with shop labor rates topping $150/hr., most repairs will probably devastate you,,,for a while, until the next one hits. I had older trucks, did my own work, saved a fortune, it's just, not sure you can do that today. Even new trucks break, and downtime is a killer. Good luck.
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If you have the ability to wrench on it yourself, go old..
That said I wouldn't buy a '93 6.5L GM 3500 light duty pickup..
An FL50, 60, 70 would be an ok truck with 5.9, 8.3, cummins or 3126 Cat to run hotshot. I'd skip a gooseneck trailer altogether & get a lightweight 48'-53' step with ramps long enough that can load cars, & freight..Itsbrokeagain, JoeyJunk, Rideandrepair and 3 others Thank this. -
I've done both. I've always been a believer in buying a good quality piece of gear, then maintaining it forever. That said, if you have the money to buy an older truck, then basically restore it, then you can save a butt ton of money and basically end up with a new truck for a fraction of the cost. I am currently doing this for the third time in my life.
New truck option. Spend money on a brand new truck. It's completely under warranty, so basically no maintenance bills. Max depreciate it over 3-5 years. Sell it and do it all over again. My accountant preferred this method. So I do that with other equipment.
If you can not afford to rebuild an"old" truck from go, then the second option might be a better financial decision.
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####, I love this forum. Thanks for the very helpful replies. I'm watching some videos by somebody with a brand new Super Duty, they put 70k miles on it in 10 months, and it needs an $8,000 transmission. The 36k warranty expired when it was 3 months old. If I can get a more heavy duty vehicle, with fairly low miles, I'm thinking that's the way to go even if it's older. I'd start out with no truck payment.
I can do a lot of my own repairs, and when I do have to pay somebody, I wouldn't be paying for a whole lot of diagnostic time on expensive (and possibly out of stock) electronic components if I get an older mechanical truck. And yes, it's a private sale, with the title in this guys name.
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Apparently we're not allowed to say a word that's used to describe a large structure that holds back water in a river....
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What kind of fuel mileage is expected running an FL 50, 60, 70 with the engines you described pulling a lightweight 48 - 53 step?Rideandrepair and singlescrewshaker Thank this.
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That would be a dam.
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I had one of those. Great truck once I put in a 12 valve, 47rh, and 241dhd.
Here it is in action back in the single turbo days making a meager 65psi.Brettj3876, Speedy356, Rideandrepair and 2 others Thank this. -
Well hello there William!! Lol
They call me Mikey..
That's a sweet ride.! Looks like she passes a quarter rather quick!!
Ironically nerver minded the 6.5L diesel. Have a soft spot for them, as the 1st diesel pickup I ever drove was a '97 Chevy dually with a NV4500 5sp. Pulled a 36' gooseneck for a tree farm, couldn't get out of it's own way, & would turn day to darkness.. Would just pour a black blanket across town before "rolling coal" was cool. Lol Was reliable though..
I just meant it would probably be a poor choice for a hotshot rig because how anemic they tend to be. Repowered with a 6bt, or LB7-LBZ (minus egr) it would be just as good as any other, & I'd reckon look way cooler doing it!!
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