Some of them are, I agree. They're usually the ones who never get anywhere in this business. They're riding on the bottom of somebody's seniority board and doesn't stay around long enough for his DM and the rest of the staff to trust him.
So, after they look at his job-hopping record he gets the crappy truck and the crappy trailer and the crappy loads because he won't be around very long anyway so why bother trying to please him? Pretty soon he gets pissed and quits and gets another job just like the one he left and the cycle repeats itself.
He won't hang on anywhere long enough to work his way up the system and get better equipment and better loads. He wants all the best stuff...and he wants it right now.
He thinks the company is like Mommy and Daddy, they should nurture and protect him, ease his way, overlook his marginal performance, and excuse his bad behavior.
He's never been happy and until he changes his view he never will be. Most DMs and managers can spot him a mile away.
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You want to gain some big brownie points in this industry? Do what I did.
Tell your dispatcher and fleet manager that you are their rescue boat. Any driver breaks down, needs to get home for a family emergency, etc and I'm in the area.....you know who to call. I'm a phone call away and me and my truck are ready to help at any time that I can legally drive.
I told them that, and within 3 weeks I was in a brand new truck. I didn't want it, and would like my old truck back, but that's another story.LilRedRidingHood Thanks this. -
I've been the go-to guy every where I've ever worked. Sooner or later they realize that I'm dependable and can get the job done without crying about it. I don't volunteer for it it just happens.
And it sucks.
It's always the same, crap work that the other guy won't or can't do for the same pay or less because of how we are paid.
At this point I prefer to be invisible. Dispatch me my work and I'll get it done with as little drama as possible. For me the perfect week is when I don't need to talk to anyone in the office for anything, and I actually have a good dispatcher.TruckDriver87, Stonehjl, Crude Truckin' and 2 others Thank this. -
What about those who would like to stay where they are, but the old marginal "inflation" raise of 1cent a year won't cut it anymore?
Inflation is really high this past year, so if you don't get at least a 10% raise, you might be losing money staying at the same spot.
Which company is really going to give you a 10% raise? That's probably unheard of. The only option is to "job hop".
It is just the way life is now. I wish we still lived in a time where you worked somewhere forever and got your pension lolTruckDriver87, Stane, LilRedRidingHood and 4 others Thank this. -
Nah, the way it works is either you got work or you don't. Seniority doesn't mean a thing unless you work union, I had seniority at a company and got $1,200 extra in perdiem a month, the new guys I was training didn't. I already knew what was coming and still trained them, they had all the right in the world to take it away and I just said bye.
But you keep thinking that seniority means something, lots of guys in my old company had seniority over me and it didn't mean a thing. The only thing that mattered to my bosses is that I was willing to work whenever and drive under any weather conditions while not refusing crude oil loads because they were less than perfect.
The only thing that trumps that is being friends with the bosses and that's basically the only guys that were appreciated over me even if they weren't worth a ####, so yeah you can keep that seniority and keep working for peanuts.EurekaSevven, Bret1984, Coffey and 1 other person Thank this. -
We're not union but we have a pretty strict seniority system. We use it mainly for assigning new equipment and steady runs that become available. The drivers all make about the same money and most of them are topped out until we give the annual raise in June. We pay by the hour.
If management has the backbone and is committed to making it work it's a good system.
We also pay a longevity bonus...so much per year of employment. It adds up.
Our drivers stay with us. Most of them stay until retirement. I've never heard any complaints about the seniority system.
The way we do things might not work for everybody but they work for us. Driver longevity means a low turnover. Low turnover results in fewer rookie mistakes that cost us money.
The biggest problem we have, and I can see it becoming worse, is that the available driver pool is aging. Right now we're okay but I wonder where we'll find drivers like we have now in ten years.Crude Truckin', 88 Alpha, Coffey and 1 other person Thank this. -
I heard SRT went under.
Also a year is more than enough time for a company to understand what kind of a worker you are, and do what it takes to keep you around, if your worth it.
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Not sure why folks are so triggered by OPs job hopping.
One positive thing is that job hoppers are the only ones that get to see so many different companies and compare them.
If you work 10 years for one company you might not have as much perspective as someone who had 9 jobs in that time.
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SRT went under? Why am I not surprised? FBGM also went under. So did BTT.
As for an update on Detmar none of my team is there anymore. They got a new operations manager last year that's driving away all the old hands. Good news is you no longer need any prior experience to work for them. Swift is more picky than Detmar now. If nobody else will hire you then Detmar will. Their last O/O finally had enough and left. He only got 4 loads in 2 weeks now that the company is struggling to get work. At most the whole fleet will only have 2 wells so IF you're lucky enough to get a load that week plan on being there all day in a massive line of trucks. Obviously they're losing business. They'll join SRT and FBGM soon enough under their new management. The old operations manager read the writing on the wall and bailed. He obviously seen something I didn't because I stuck around for a good while after he left putting up with the BS from someone in the office whose resume was running operations for a road fleet, no oilfield experience. Trying to run oilfield operations like its Swifts OTR van division. I stuck around because I was still getting loads and making money. Once the work started slowing down I jumped ship. The senior mechanic also quit. Now they got the guy that just started when I was there running the shop and has no clue what he's doing. The last older hand that we've all been making fun of because he's been so fiercely determined to not be a job hopper that he's been ride or die just finally left last week. He's been calling me venting and all upset about how bad things have gotten but has been hanging in. By the time he left he was THE most senior driver on the fleet. Guess where that got him? I got news for these drivers here. If that driver who spent 20 years with the same company applies for a job along with another driver with 3 years of experience with 10 different companies they'll both get hired on at the same pay rate, get the same equipment and the same loads. Now let's say you do get that dispatcher that you have that great relationship with. That's awesome right? Guess what? Dispatchers move up in the world or move along to greener pastures too. Now you Mr seniority has a new dispatcher who doesn't know you from anyone else. All he sees is truck numbers on his screen. There's no special checkmark next to the more senior driver. Maybe he'll click with you like your old dispatcher did or maybe he won't. Perhaps he thinks Mr seniority is coming off sounding entitled unlike his newer drivers who are working hard to prove themselves. If that happens then all your seniority just became worthless. Seriously anyone can sit there with the same company and drive for 20 years. That doesn't take much talent now does it? After 20 years you should be running that company! Too bad you're still just a driver and I could easily get hired on at the same pay, get the same equipment and the same runs as you plus all those new incentives and bonuses that weren't offered when you started. As for performance years mean nothing. Again, anyone can sit there and drive for 20 years. Half of these people don't even know how to do a brake pump down test on their tractor. Guess uncle Bill didn't teach them that on the farm when they started with their chauffeurs license.EurekaSevven and OliverCallenderIII Thank this. -

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