CSA2010 and log book form and manner violations

Data Q. The process to have a violation or anything with the inspection challenged.

 

Sect 385.51 has already been the rule for quite some time now and we were made aware of it from day one so I dont have a problem with it. When it was created or written, did the section go back in the past and cause drivers to be dis-qualified for old offenses? I may be wrong, but I dont think that was the case. It is a poor example of your argument.
CSA 2010 is a new regulation which has additional penalties for old offenses. You call it "Data collection". This data will be used to impose sanctions against drivers, just like a credit report, What part of my "rants" are so hard to understand?
I agreed with everyone that said we should have been legal all the time. I agreed with the need for more severe consequences for serious or repeat offenders. My biggest problem with all this is the retro-active nature of it. Going back 2 or 3 years (not sure if it is 2 or 3 years now as I have seen both numbers tossed about) and using past offenses to impose new punishment is wrong!

 

Sect 385.51 has already been the rule for quite some time now and we were made aware of it from day one so I dont have a problem with it. When it was created or written, did the section go back in the past and cause drivers to be dis-qualified for old offenses? I may be wrong, but I dont think that was the case. It is a poor example of your argument.
CSA 2010 is a new regulation which has additional penalties for old offenses. You call it "Data collection". This data will be used to impose sanctions against drivers, just like a credit report. What part of my "rants" are so hard to understand?
I agreed with everyone that said we should have been legal all the time. I agreed with the need for more severe consequences for serious or repeat offenders. My biggest problem with all this is the retro-active nature of it. Going back 2 or 3 years (not sure if it is 2 or 3 years now as I have seen both numbers tossed about) and using past offenses to impose new punishment is wrong!
Whatever! I'm tired of debating this issue. Let the government erode your rights in the name of safety! Dont come crying to anyone when you have no rights left! We only get the government that we deserve! Safety my ###!

 

For 2011 they should make Police Officers past offense public information, and hold the last 2 years against them and their departments.

The Cops, Courts, and lawyers are the biggest group of outlaws on earth. I'm not saying truckers are the good guys, but neither are the one on the otherside. Any organization that is self policed has tendency of illegal activity without recourse.

You are suppose to believe that the court is going to decide against the officer of the court, unless you pay the bribe to either the court or an attorney.

This Crap they call CSA 2010 is just more Bull****. It is going to hold you the driver responsible for everything as normal. Most driver do not have the luxury to refuse to drive a truck, or take a load without suffering recourse from the company. The company is held responsible for 2 years while the driver is held for 3 years. Plus compiling this information is openly profiling the drivers.

We don't need more laws, they need to stop selective enforcement. Start enforcing the ones we already have.

You want safety to matter then go after the ones who profit from ignoring the rules now. Follow the money, wow that would quickly rule out the drivers.

Make hourly pay required during loading and unloading, there are things that can be done that would help the safety of the industry but they would all affect the people making the money. So thats not going to happen.

CSA 2010 is just giving the goons with the guns more reasons to stop you for no reason at all if they what to. 1 item at a time they keep taking rights and liberties away from the people.

 

I'll make a wager here, that the percentage of violations or inspection items reversed will be so small, and the process of challenging just onerous enough, that most people who get a bad one won't even bother to challenge.

My problems with CSA 2010 is not with how it will affect me as a truck driver, but with how it will affect me as a citizen.


Just exactly what lack of safety currently exists in the trucking industry to justify the expense to all taxpayers and the intrusion into the lives of drivers that will be caused by this? How many lives will be saved by this each year, and at what cost?


It seems to me that if the FMCSA really wanted to make our highways safer, they would start by increasing the training standards for drivers and making the testing procedures much more difficult. It just seems like common sense to me that if you toughen the entrance standards for almost any profession you should be able to lessen the required supervision, which saves everyone tax dollars and allows the subject profession to be more productive, as its practicioners can focus more on their actual work & less on compliance.


To me, the real issues here are freedom and control, money and power. The FMCSA and the various law enforcement agencies will promulgate any plan that will allow them to increase their staffing and budgets. Anything that will make them appear more critical to whatever will make it more difficult to reduce their budgets. A bureaucracy is like a cancer, if it can't grow it might die. And that's all CSA 2010 is, another bureaucracy for drivers to deal with. Its primary aim is not to increase safety, but to increase career opportunities for those charged with enforcing it. The great William O. Douglas (A true liberal, by the way) once said; “The job of the courts is to keep government off the backs of the people”.


If our government really cared about us as citizens and truck drivers it would change licensing requirements as I outlined above and and include truck drivers in the Fair Labor Standards Act. Neither will ever happen. The first would reduce the amount of regulatory oversight required and the second would both increase driver's wages and remove an enormous amount of pressure on drivers to cheat on whatever regulations the bureaucrats can invent, which would further reduce the amount of regulation required and deny the aforementioned bureaucrats countless opportunities to intrude upon and control the lives and destinies of others.


Welcome to the corporate-bureaucratic state.

 

CSA 2010 does not change one rule we were supposed to be complying with in the first place. It does allow for a better regulation because as it stands now the FMCSA can only audit about 1% of registered carriers and none of the drivers. This will eliminate that.

 

Funny thing about the auditing part. They can't audit all the companies because they don't have enough people to do it. Now they think they're going to audit everyone all the time with even less people on the job. I don't see that working out quite as planned.

 

They are not interested in the companies. This proves they are only after the drivers and do not care what the company does.

If they truly wanted to get the companies, there is plenty of reasons listed on this forum with the name of the company and details.

Never has been considered.

 

The reason that drivers ignore the rules is increase their profit. Your correct, it's all about greed, greedy stockholders, greedy company managers, greedy O/O and L/O, and greedy drivers. They all do it for the $$$ If you want to make money by ignoring the law why do it for pennies. Go for the big bucks and sell drugs or rob banks. You will have more quality time at home with the family also.

 

You figure if a megacarrier has 10,000 trucks and each truck just got 2 illegal hours a week , they get revenue from a million extra miles week . Do you think they worry about even a $50,000 fine ?