Females training with men

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  1. gentleroger

    gentleroger Road Train Member

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    I'm not going to litigate this with you.

    The trainer is in a supervisory role and is supposed to be setting an example of proper workplace decorum. If she started things, it's his job to shut it down. It's not that hard to avoid talking about politics, religion, and sex. Anyone who can't do that shouldn't be training.

    It is possible to create a training program where gender is not an issue, but the company has to genuinely want to. Prime elected to deal with the issue in 2004 by not dealing with it, thus there continuing problems.
     
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  3. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    Thankfully in almost every situation this can and does work. The problem is that rare situation when the male trainer has done nothing wrong. They "shut it down" and the female gets "pissed" and files against that trainer. It can and does happen from time to time. Just how easy is it? This is a rare and extreme case and has nothing to do with trucking but look at the case of Biurny Peguero. This woman lied and as a result, a man spent 4 YEARS in prison for something he DID NOT DO! Because she lied there could have been no evidence to use against him other than a she said he said situation and she was the one believed! There is no one size fits all solution to co-ed training. A man going into this situation needs to keep both eyes WIDE OPEN!
     
  4. roundhouse

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    Wbweyo
    Everyone who isn’t a straight white male , gets to claim discrimination any and every time something doesn’t go the way they want it to.
     
  5. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    It's not quite that bad, but the potential is there. I once heard a guy drunk off his butt sitting almost crying in his beer that in today's courts if your chromosomes don't match you are a subhuman liar.
     
  6. The Crossword Trucker

    The Crossword Trucker Road Train Member

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    I bet that guy had just spent the day in divorce court
    Truckers do not do well in divorce court guys, please please be careful out there.
     
  7. Moose1958

    Moose1958 Road Train Member

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    If I remember correctly the divorce had already happened. The guy did generally OK in the divorce, what happened was the ex moved back home to South Dakota and took their kids with her. The guy was at the time a Lt Commander in the US Navy and a ship's XO. According to him, the wife lied to the Judge and he was told basically to sit down and be quiet! Today I have no idea where any of them are!
     
  8. FearTheCorn

    FearTheCorn Medium Load Member

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    In male/female trainer situations, it's not always the male that is a problem. I had a buddy who was training a female, and she flat out propositioned him. He said no thanks, and she turned him in for sexual harassment. Don't get me started about in-cab cameras, but his company had them and recorded the the entire mess. He was exonerated, but that is one reason in ten million I could list that convinced I would never, ever train.
     
  9. Zoltan1a

    Zoltan1a Road Train Member

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    I dont think this turkey person is ever coming back to see all these responses. They have a novel to read if they ever do.
     
  10. Shackdaddy

    Shackdaddy Medium Load Member

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    I trained some when I was a city LTL driver. Females never lasted once they figured out it was more than bumping docks and having someone else do the unloading.

    I really didn’t like training, everyone already seems to think they know everything.

    But if I was OTR, no way, no chance I’d ever want to train and live with a total stranger in the space of a walk in closet.

    I’d in no way want to train a female, all she has to do is say he touched me or he propositioned me or he raped me and it could be 100% BS. It could be some fat nasty hag I’d never even want to touch, but STILL she’d be believed. At least by some. Many have the opinion in todays times that women Must be believed.

    Now I know most women wouldn’t lie about this sort of thing but if even 10% of women are capable of lying and destroying a reputation in the process that’s just too many.

    I’ll not take the chance.
     
  11. Grouch

    Grouch Road Train Member

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    I have always gone by this; "there is nothing sweeter than a sweet woman, nothing more evil than a evil one" Too many men have had their lives destroyed because of lust, flesh and ambition, these three do not mix.

    For 5 years, I was the "little boy" for a President of a major LTL company. I drove him and his staff around in a million dollar bus. I heard him say to his staff, "you sleep with your secretary tonight, you better fire her in the morning, if not, I will fire you"
     
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