Cops can smoke weed off duty

Canada is in the same boat. I have no issues with anyone doing anything they want at home but be straight on the road. Unfortunately I they they jumped the gun without making there’s definitive roadside testing equipment to ensure someone isn’t impaired. In our case the all mighty revenue combined with votes pushed it through too quickly.

 

Yup, and in the meantime some otherwise harmless people are watching their driving career go right down the drain because of harmless recreational use.
I know, I know, they knew the risks when they used the stuff and they don't really have anyone but themselves to blame.
A couple of years I ago I lost one of the best drivers I had because he tested hot for cannabis. He blazed up on weekends and made no secret of it. I never had any indication that his work was impaired and he was always safe, on time, and problem free. The crew liked him. Customers liked him.
I told him, more than once, that one of these days your name will come up for a random and what are we going to do then. He'd just laugh it off and say he had a secret recipe of vitamins and tonics that would mask the presence. He said an old Indian woman in our tribe mixed it up for him. I know her. She's not quite right in her head. Too much peyote.
Guess what, his magic potion didn't work. He came up for a random, flunked it big time, and that afternoon cleaned out his truck and his locker, said goodbye to a job he'd had for sixteen years. and went home. For good.
Our insurance has a 0 tolerance for drugs and alcohol. Most insurance companies do. I asked if I could keep him on in the shop or as a tire man. The insurance company said no. He couldn't find work in our area and wound up losing his home . He finally got a job at a tire dealer. He went from making 90 grand a year to whatever the tire company pays him. Probably not much. He's fifty years old. He worked under the table driving for a couple of gyppo outfits but they didn't pay him.
Okay, knowing he smoked pot he should have known it was just a matter of time before he got busted. Bad judgement on his part but it still seems like a big price to pay.
It's just a bad deal all the way around, for him, for me, and for anybody who thinks they'll never get caught.

 

Lol..you make me chuckle ZVar. I see what you're up to. Anyway, as an ex-user, I tend to disagree with the fact that it isn't addictive. I've lived it, and I've known people who have, and are still living it to this day. Im not sure what they're basing that on. From my personal experience, it was a very hard habit to kick, andi nearly let it ruin my life. I can admit that I had a problem, but because people believe the propaganda that it isn't addicting, folks are not going to think they have an addiction, nor will they put it in the same category as other drugs. I guarantee you it's weed is more addictive than people give credit for. Even if it became legal on the federal level, I'd never go back to it. It wouldn't he a good thing for me to.

 

I'm not part of cancel culture in any form or fashion. Truth be told, I'm in favor of legalizing all street drugs. People can be users of all drugs and function just fine. They aren't necessarily menaces to society. The ones that are way too far gone and raising hell are the ones that need to be identified. If the feds or any local leader etc can regulate alcohol, what's to stop them from regulating anything else?

 

That's that false sense of invincibility, and that's what people who have an addiction show the most. The same thing happened to me, and like you said in your other post, it ain't worth it. I only wish I realized it then. I flunked when my wife was pregnant with our daughter. She should have divorced me then. We all will have opinions on these things, but it don't really matter. Trucking and insurance have their own world, their own rules and folks have to adjust to the way things are and not how they want it to be.

 

I believe the times they are a changing.
Just as the newer era of drivers will only drive an automatic or can't go an hour without looking at a phone and it's illegal,but everything you need is on it.
And we know how slow change comes at the federal level.
The industry, laws, and attitudes will adapt.
I think it will be long after us old crusty operator's are dead and gone.
And with the automation in some facets of trucking it will give way to change. It has to.

They will figure it out (testing) after all states legalize it. I hear a few states are considering medical psilocybin mushrooms..that's all we need..lol

I look at driver ed training and new car manufacturers for example. Why turn your head or look at a mirror when you've got sensors telling you it's all clear and 19 air bags to protect you if it wasn't.
We don't teach how to prevent but how to react now.
It is sad that your guy can enjoy whatever on Friday night but can be fired Monday afternoon for it.

 

Legalize it all but if ya OD, that's on you.

 

I think this is probably correct. Anything is addicting to the right personality. Video games and porn are huge problems for some people. The amount of gamers who have been up all night wearing their Johnson out and driving with no sleep is scary.
I don't think addiction should be what the debate is about, and your right pro weed loves to tout it's non addictive. Of course it is to some. Same with driving down the road on Facebook.
I'm cool with personal responsibility, and freedom. Just want to find a way to punish these mfrs while practicing it driving down the road. That's the elephant in the room no one can seem to stop. They have it down pat with alcohol, but that's only because it lends itself to be easy to test for. No easy answers.
When I finally hang my keys up the first thing I'm gonna do is roll a big fatty on the way back from fishing all day, so as you can tell I can see it from both sides of the argument.

 

To many alcohol and drug related traffic incidents to allow that to happen in modern times, yes I'd say if alcohol and drugs could be properly controlled with no effect on a drivers ability to navigate a vehicle then it would be fine.

 

Well, unless your behind the moving wheel of a vehicle, then your just ++++ed.

Or did you mean, legalize all drugs? If so..a couple of countries have done so, well at lest they've decriminalized personal possession of them. Portugal comes to mind.

Far as it being addictive...I won't say it's not, but for the majority it's not. Just like with Alcohol. Some people just have an addictive nature. It's the same with smoking. Some people can smoke cigarettes' and quit no issues, others have to go through all kinds of hoops and dances to kick it. I know people who fall in both categories. I also know people who are the same with booze. My Nana was like that. She could smoke 2 packs a day for 4 years and then just stop cold turkey. Then start up again a couple of years later, and repeat.

An anybody willing to give up a great paying job, that is close to 6 figures or over just to smoke for the fun of it, is just crazy. Make your money, do your thing...the joints, bongs, and brownies will be there when you finally decide to stop doing said job.

I'll never be a fan of driving under the influence...of anything.

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