Werner Enterprises, Inc. - Omaha, Ne.

Something doesn't sound right.
Why wasn't the trailer red-tagged DO NOT OPERATE? :smt102:smt102

 

I agree. Driver really need to be extremly careful. Any little thing could cost a driver there job. I was terminated from Werner a few days b4 christmas and I was on my way home with a load and my fleet manager said they were routing me to a terminal just to sign papers because I had been there a year. Well they tried to termimnate me for excessive tickes because last year I got 3 speeding tickets ( I know I was a bad bad girl). I never thooguht it would be a big deal because 1 was for 61 in a a 55 the other was 41 in a 35 and 80 in 70 and I didnt think the lower ones would really matter but they did. They also went back and found my applicaiton of when I pplied and I listed a ticket I had in January of 2007 counted that ticket as a 4th ticket even though it was going to fall off in janurary but they said im and unsafe driver and that I was terminated. Now for the moment I put to put truck driving on hold because I cant get hired anywhere else but had I known this would have tried to fight the tickets but the legal service I had said it would be best to just pay the tickets and unless I was willing to pay $2,000 for them to consider it but if I knew what I knew now I would have went elsewhere and attempt to get a lawyer to try and fight it. But I would suggest people be very very careful and dont give companies even the littist reason to teminate.

 

Do you consider yourself a safe driver?
You seem to have a rather immature and irresponsible attitude.

For the record, I think you did the right thing under the circumstances. You need some time to grow up and realize the responsibilities associated with driving a Big truck and accept them. Collecting speeding citations is a red flag for things to come. And they're not good things.

Four moving violations on one's record is not a "littist reason" to be terminated.

 

You wonder why new drivers dump on these companies.If you think what Werner did was bad wait until you see your car insurance.

 

This seems like a bit of a low blow, if you're just basing it on what she's written in that one post.

On its face, a collection of three moving violations in a year is bad, yes. If the story she's told here is accurate, though, I think you're overstating your case. Two of the tickets were 6 MPH over the speed limit, which is frankly nothing given what I've seen presumably experienced truckers do all the time. The third was 10 MPH over the limit.

If she lives in PA, then two of those tickets might not even appear on her state driving record at all (not sure), if they were issued out of state. None of them will get her points.

I'm not trying to be a speeding apologist here; trust me, I'm one of those truckers that everyone honks at and curses on the CB because I don't go more than 3-4 mph over the speed limit as a rule -- but I can sympathize with the realization (too late) that she should have fought the tickets, at tremendous expense. With the way that local governments seem to be clenching their money-grubbing fists around every trucker passing by, I can't help but feel that way.

Granted, it may well be that we're missing part of the story here. I imagine that many of the complaining posts in this forum are missing some detail or other.

But what I do know is that two or three years ago, Werner would not have fired a driver for what she claims to have done. Two or three years ago, Werner might not even have fired her for twice as much. Whether you approve or disapprove of the firing, we all know why they're doing it now -- and it isn't because their consciences suddenly grew. It's because the economy's in the toilet, and they'd prefer to fire people instead of laying them off.

I disapprove of their policy (of generally blowing things out of proportion and aggressively papering DAC) because it's the very thing that discourages drivers from reporting incidents honestly. Honesty is actively punished, in fact.

You're right. What she should have said was, "fight everything tooth and nail, no matter what it is, no matter how expensive it'll be."

The ugly truth is that truckers these days get into all sorts of minor scrapes, get all sorts of tickets, get accused of all manner of things. The main difference between those who survive and those who get ##### canned is that the former fight everything, and get some of it dismissed. Just a quick glance through the regulation forum here shows a number of obviously experienced truckers getting their fair share of tickets, and fighting/pleading them down. Are they equally deserving of your scorn, or do they get safety cred for having a lawyer?

So much of trucking isn't about how well you do the job; it's about how you play the game. That annoys me, in principle, even if for this particular case I turn out to be totally wrong.

 

Thats why i think he left something out. I didnt neccessarily mean he left something he did wrong out, but he left something out somewhere...heheheh.

 

Do I think im a safe driver? Without a doubt YES. I dont understand how my attitude is immature and irresponsible. Because I dont agree with the reason I was fired and I thought it was blown out of proportion that makes me immature. So be it then. I understand I was wrong and undstand there are consequences for my actions but do I think it was fair? Not at all. I thought since the tickets wernt excessive except the 1 it wouldnt be something I have to worry about. Because I had 4 tickets im made out to be unsafe, irrespnsible, and like im the worst person in the world and alot of people and companies dont look at the specifics of what happened and I dont think its fair at all. I handled the situation very reasonabily and like an adult. They stated there case I stated mine and they still terminated me I accepted it and looked for other oppertuniities. The only reason im putting it on hold is because in March 2 of the tickets will be more than a year old and theres a few local places I can apply to so I went out and got another job until then..

I honestly didnt know that the 2 that were 6 would come back to haunt me or the 1 from 2007. The ticket from 200 7 was just two weeks from being more than 3 years ago which I see what most companies require. And in march 2 of the tickets will be more than a year old. Besideds to the 2007 ticket the 3 others were out of state and just lost 2 points for 1 of the tickets. All of then were in my car except the 41 in a 35 was my only ticket in a truck. I do feel stupid now for not fighting the tickets and its too late and already branded as unsafe driver but I know for the future if it happens again.

 

It doesn't matter what you were driving.You only have one driver's license and that's your CDL.If two of them were in your car then you cloud have taken a defensive driving class and had them dropped since they weren't that much over.It's different for each state.I've only had two speeding tickets on ten years.Both were in Texas were I live.One was in my car and the other in my truck.In Texas you can take defensive driving for a car but not for a commercial vehicle.

 

Not true . Defensive driving schools are no longer allowed for CDL holders no matter what you were driving when ticketed .

http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regu.../fmcsrruletext.aspx?chunkKey=090163348008f075

 

Sorry u got fired Orion.I think u knew this was coming did'nt u?A very stupid reason to fire u.But none the less that's how Werner opoerates.I was with them almost 3 yrs.They've changed since I quit.They fire u at every little thing now.And I did'nt have that stupid no idle rule.As far as low miles go that has never changed.That's why I quit.I can't survive on less then $300.00 a week.Then your wife divorces u,gees thats really hitting below the belt. Well if u have over a yrs exp loook for the smaller companiesThey're so much better to drive for.Im driving for a company of 20 drivers and some of that 20 is O/O.I get the miles and very little sitting,Mainly to get loaded and unloaded is about all I sit.Only reason i'm sitting now is because of the blizard that went thru.So im picking up load mon.Alot of the smaller companies dont have the rules these big companies dnly rule my company has is on time delivery.They don't care if u idle dont care where u fuel ect.There's only 3 office ppl,the owner,payroll and dispatcher.All great folks.