Yes, Yes, I am well aware of the "Opportunity Costs" involved in changing Carriers and your post does a good job of spelling these things out.
Crete is a privately held company (The Ackley Companies) and is unlike Celadon whom publishes their quaterly metrics of "Ave. length per Load", "Ave. miles per truck per week", etc. on their investors website:
http:///library.corporate-ir.net/library/11/113/113735/items/207076/Q4earningstranscript.pdf
So.... I have been questioning Crete drivers at truckstops accross the country over the last 2 months to attempt to acquire some type of survey. Miles are good, 2800-3200 when driving, loads are good, 800-900 per, company good. I can't vouch for the statistical validity of such an informal survey but it's the best I got...
The reality for me is something less imperical. Mexicans, and the Celadon management's seemingly desire to sell the American drivers out and replace them at all due speed with Mexican drivers working for .19 per miles. They seem to be itching at the bit to replace us with Mexicans and it just seems traitorious to me. I cannot abide working for a company so determined to stab the American worker in the back for their personal profit. I want out now why the gettin is good! They brag at their "conference calls" about getting more [racial epithets deleted] drivers (their words)! Here's the link if you care to listen in:
[Link deleted: Requires registration and the giving up of personal contact information to listen to webcast]
So.... there it is. It's not just the money..... I just can't bring myself to participate in my own destruction!
Celadon Trucking Service, Inc. - Indianapolis, In.?
Discussion in 'Motor Carrier Questions - The Inside Scoop' started by rl- LTL driver, Jul 16, 2006.
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Hey there driver!
well you make some very good points there! Under those conditions IM with you. I would have my truck cleaned out in a heart beat!
Good Luck to you.
Gator
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If there were a company giving a $0.50 increase every 60,000 miles, there would be a massive flood of applicants or folk camping literally on the companies' doorstep.
Right, a $0.005 increase or 1/2 cent every 60,000 miles which is a good standard and not obtainable everywhere.
I'm not an English teacher or one of the "spelling police", however I do like to point out things in linguistics when possible.
Re: the Mexican drivers;
I'm sure every company would prefer to pocket huge sums by paying Foreigners much less than we accept. Does this mean that this country is also going to have ALL road signs in multiple languages so as to ease the non English folk around this country??
In many construction jobs there is a requirement(in ads i've read) that one be bi-lingual yet with the many differing dialects I will surmise that these requisites be extended to include various languages.
It is NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY to learn a language of another country unless I am living there, thusly it is NOT MY RESPONSIBILITY to actively converse with Foreigners if they cannot comprehend MY language or dialect.
The main problem WE have in this country is that Foreigners WILL DRIVE for considerably less than WE will simply because it is MORE than they can possibly attain in their home country, if anything at all.
Schneider may be one of the better companies to drive for HOWEVER they have recently announced an increase in demand for FOREIGN drivers, so there. JB hunt will follow suit if not already as will other companies I'm sure.
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Celedon is one of several companies out there, that has set up sister companies across the border, that are training drivers in english, and assisting them in obtaining work visas. They, like all the others, are not seeing a fruition of those efforts. Clearing the backgrounds of many of those drivers, has not come to pass as they had hoped. I have little sympathy for them.
This guest worker program is also largely failing because it does not allow these workers to move their families into the United States in order to work.
The other thing of note here, is that even if they are successful in filling slots with legal immigrants or guest workers, these people will not be likely to put up with much more abuse than their American counterparts. What will likely come to pass, is that these companies that are trying this crap, will see a mutiny by many of thse people, who will jump to better jobs, just as we do. Again, that's going to put a smile on my face as well, because all that money that these crappy companies are spending, that could have been put to better use, to shore up their sinking ships, will have been largely wasted.
My theory is simple. Let them do it. The bankruptcy that they will experience will be of their own doing, and they will deserve it. The hispanic people who are responding to these companies are no different than many people in the states. They are merely looking for a stepping stone to get their feet in the door of American trucking, and they pose no true threat to our way of life.
This is all going to backfire in their faces. When this happens, they will have shot a pretty good wad of money through their efforts to drag down the wages of drivers, but only those with marginal records will be affected to any degree.
Drivers with stable work and safety histories will always be in high demand, will always find quality employment, and that should be the goal of every American driver out here. Steering wheel holders can be found anywhere, and if that's what a company seeks, they will find them. There are still companies out here that value drivers who do their jobs well, so why settle for less than what you deserve? -
I applied for Celadon back about a month ago and they called me today wanting to schedule an orientation. I got offered a regional job from a local O/O, but I'm waiting on him to get some loose ends tied up first.
So, I'm thinking of going to Celadon instead. I've not really heard anything bad about them, but I've also never talked to any of their drivers.. -
Hi,
I work for Celadon. I have been with them since August. When I started with them I ran a month solo and now am teaming. They are begging for teams!
Quite happy here. No payroll issues and they get you home ontime.
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Thanks for the reply,
I spoke with Becky in the recruiting office and she kinda sold me on the midwest regional because it's supposed to have weekly hometime.
I really want to go with this O/O here in my hometown due to being out 4 and off 3, but it'll be next month before he'll be ready for me... Can't really wait that long. -
Go with Celadon for now and tell the o/o if you are not happy you will give him a try, in the mean time stick it out at Celadon and see what it is like. Freight seems to be slow every where so don't let that discourage you. -
I did not know about the regions until I read about them in an ad last month. I have run regional(not with Celadon) and enjoyed it.
Good luck to you whatever you do decide. -
Does anyone have an opinion re Celadon? If not Celadon, who? All I read are horror stories. There have got to be companies out there that treat their drivers fairly, as long as the driver does his or her bit. Thanks.
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