How fast do you drive in California?

Housing is still high out here but the price of raw land is coming down. If we get some normal rainfall years raw land will start going up again. That's what the real estate people tell me, anyway.
A lot of the small time pot growers are getting out. Since pot was legalized and taxed and regulated the growers are having to go along with the program just like any other farmer. Also, the surrounding states legalized pot so the market went down...pot by the kilo is less than half of what it used to be. There are a lot of former pot farms for sale. The only problem is that a lot of them will require remediation for illegal grading, home drilled water wells, stream diversion, and...the big kicker...haz mat cleanup. Also, most of them are off grid and have uninspected and non-permitted buildings.
I looked at a 90 acre piece the other day. Good price on the land but when I penciled in the cost of the remediation it would need there's no way I could come out on it. Not running cows, anyway.
Our local regulatory agencies were too lax on the pot farmers for many years because they liked the money going into the local economy. Now they're seeing thousands of acres abandoned and off the tax rolls. Serves them right.
But...if you have a dump truck, an excavator, a back hoe, and a grader and do the work yourself there are some good prices for medium sized chunks of land.. You'll just have to deal with six or seven different government agencies who can't ever seem to agree on how things should be done.

 

I’m sorry, but illegal grading? And home drilled water wells? Not to mention fussing about a pole barn or storage shed. That screams government overreach.

 

68-70mph

 

Yup. You identified the problem. Got a solution?

 

I’d begin with voting, but the problem is the urban areas in your state are too large and all this sounds good to them. Mainly because it doesn’t affect them.

My farrier moved here from New Jersey. He said a few years ago the state mandated that livestock owners had to fence the animals in to where they can’t access any streams or creeks. The purpose was so the animals wouldn’t defalcate or urinate in the water.

It clearly was an urban politician who thought of that bill.

 

I am glad you got the less liberal crowd/agenda driven people moving in over your way.

Just take a gander over at Oregon to see how messed up the more liberal side can make things over time.

I skipped OR and rolled to a more conservative pocket of WA because of the fallout of the waves of commune residents that landed in OR over the past 30 years.

 

I also need to mention that while growing up in Cali we were constantly asking the parents "When will all the new kids were going to move back to TX, Ohio, or whatever state their parents used to call home." Cali has been both blessed and cursed by long term migration from other states. Part of the reason property values have been dramatically increasing for the past 70 years.

My life long goals since the Carter administration has been to own outright (no mortgage, rents. or h.o.a. Dues) my house and land, with a cash nest egg in the bank. Took me a long time to realize the easiest way to realize that goal was to move away to a more cost effective property area.

The people fleeing now have just come to realize how much easier it is to take the California real estate profits and go someplace else to retire.

And that "Karen attitude" was an import from the midwest to Cali, It's how we recognized the "invaders".

 

I love Cali except for driving a truck there.

 

i got 60 MPH company policy most trucks do around 58-63 I dont think a cop would pull you over for going 65 MPH unless its contruction or a busy area out on i5 let it rip doing go over 65 tho youll be fine

 

speak for yourself i love CALi parking is never an issue literally every off ramp has truck parking unline all other states i never have to worry i got 60 MPH ive governed at 65 so whatever nice state better than wyoming that state is garbage