Question about doing Yard Moves

Yard move is line 4, do it til the cows come home. So long as you are always on private property and take the required 10 or 34 off whatever you need before taking a cmv on a public road again. No exception needed.

 

The HOS regulations all begin with 'shall not drive after' 11/14 without taking 10 off.

There is no prohibition to working after 11/14 as long as you don't drive [on the roadways] until you take the required 10 hours off duty.

Working on the dock or yard is line 4 - on duty not driving.

When you are released from duty you have to take your ten hours off before driving on the roadways.

If you still have any of your 70 hours left, you can start a new driving shift after ten off.

 

In my research I discovered one guideline the FMCSA uses when determining if a Yard Move is legitimate is the question if the area you are moving restricted from the general public? While a locked gate is obviously one way to keep the public out, it's not the only way. Perhaps a stop sign or a written "Keep Out" sign is enough. FMCSA doesn't consider yard move legitimate at places like a truck stop or Walmart, etc.

 

Correct, we had a mix of switchers; half were at customer sites behind the location's security gate/guard while the other half worked from our warehouse and drop lot delivering pre-pulled containers and returning empties to our facility roving around a square mile -or- so. We paid them hourly and considered them all as 100 air-mile exempt.

 

I would think “restricted from the general public” would be any private property not freely open to the public. There are no signs or gates at my property, but it obviously isn’t open to the public. I can drive all I want on my property and the government has no jurisdiction to police traffic laws on my property.

 

While that is reasonable, what is important is not what you and I think but what the FMCSA thinks.

 

Put a sheet of tinfoil over the receiver , outlaw til the day i die.