Gun control is not the American way!

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  1. snowman1980

    snowman1980 Light Load Member

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    Ronald Reagan had a lot to with gun control.
     
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  3. any name you wish

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    Regulations do sometimes come out of thin air. For example, it was illegal for a slave to escape from a plantation prior to the Civil War. There was also a law that compelled ordinary citizens to assist in the recapture of an escaped slave to return them to their master—right here in America.

    Of course we're far more "enlightened" today. Every generation thinks it's enlightened, and that the other generations have had it all wrong. Wouldn't want to show Elvis Presley on TV from the waste down, would we?

    No, there will come a day in the future when generations will question many of the laws we have today and wonder how we could have been so out of our minds. Laws are actually extremely subjective, since it's really hard for all peoples in all generations and all nations to accept one standard objective morality. In fact, Russia, which still has legalized slavery even today, uses a snapshot of our American culture (and what we accept as normal) to motivate its own people to fight Ukraine—supposedly so they won't wind up living like we do.

    Which is why I don't like basic human rights being trumped by regulations and technology that enforces them. Regulations are far more subjective than basic human rights, such as those of personal defense. The US Constitution is the closest thing any human has ever made to an objective set of rules the people should live by.
     
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  4. bryan21384

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    I don't find the constitution to be totally objective. It doesn't embody what the USA is today. You say regs come out of thin air, and your example is one of pre-Civil War. In this day and age is where I'm speaking because it's what we're living. Basically human rights have been not always been used responsibly and that's why there have been more regs. Freedom is not a birthright. It's a privilege, and with privilege goes responsibility. Many groups have people haven't always been responsible and made the best choices. If we all acted right and did what we were supposed to, they wouldn't even think about regulating society so hard. Here in our world, truckers didn't act right and in comes elogs. Maybe speed limiters. For some companies, PC is getting phased out. It's all because of irresponsible behavior.
     
  5. Dave_in_AZ

    Dave_in_AZ Road Train Member

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    My state is no permit required. You can walk around with that AR10 if it's your twist. Slung over your coat, or underneath it.
     
  6. jaffles

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    Yup

    Only fight I have ever been in is the one I wanted to. I have found being the lesser man means I'm actually the greater man.

    I'm not in the world book of anonymous heroes, but who cares to read that anyway.
     
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  7. skallagrime

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    I know, I dont really care if its legal or not, people that open carry are twits that have never given a seconds reflection to what theyre doing.

    They are the people that go out in public unashamedly wearing sweatpants, the people that talk to you in the bathroom, the people that have an obnoxiously loud phone speaker and use it in the store to listen to music.

    Know george carlin's "people i can do without" yeah thats the people that carry openly
     
  8. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Please for the love of whatever ot is you hold dear, no, read the fing history.

    A. logbooks were instituted to control companies abusing drivers
    B. Companies proceeded to then get more or less control of how the logbook rules were written so they could abuse drivers/have MORE control.
    C. Elogs were a modern option, they were added as an option, but only companies that could never pass an audit were required to use them. To date, the ONLY company required to use elogs before the blanket requirement was werner.
    D. The big companies all adopted some form of elogs as they became easier to manage the log departments.

    E. Those large companies pushed and pushed and lobbied and bullied the fmcsa to write an elog mandate for the industry as a whole.

    ONE time in the entire history of logbooks were they ever implemented at the request of drivers, ever since, its ALWAYS been a new way to control or enforce against the drivers
     
  9. bryan21384

    bryan21384 Road Train Member

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    Ummmm.....duh?! Lol....I know the history. You ain't learning me anything new. Lol. I've been in the game awhile you know. Some companies pushed drivers, but a lot of drivers cheated too logs too...myself included. That was no secret to fmsca. They are not ignorant to every single detail about trucking. I'll give you this, once the big companies adopted elogs, it was a matter of time til the whole industry adopted because they have big money and in our society, money equals power.
     
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  11. RockinChair

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    I'm glad you've been lucky enough that things have never gone sideways in your immediate vicinity.
     
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