Hi Truckers!
I am new to trucking, on my way to completing Class 1 manual, will be an owner operator within a few months. My goal is to run this as a professionally incorporated business. I am located in the lower mainland of BC, and would like local jobs due to the age of the rig I will acquire, but won't complain on BC/AB driving.
I am looking for some guidance, to take under the wing, so-to-speak, for landing contracts.
PM to continue this off-line. Thank you in advance.
mentoring in canada on the west coast
Discussion in 'Canadian Truckers Forum' started by farmerdrew, Feb 24, 2023.
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Not to kill your dreams or anything but i’m guessing you don’t have any experience since you have stated you’re completing your class 1 Training right now . Insurance and your age are going to be the big factors for you as a new o/o . If you’re young with no experience most trucking firms will not even hire you for a company gig never mind as an owner Op . Most new drivers start off with companies like Bison,Challenger or Kriska where you’re lucky to make $1900 every two weeks after taxes . In trucking you have to take baby steps first get hired by a company as a company driver which isn’t easy right now it seems by the amount of newbies asking for help on this forum . then you get a couple years experience as a company driver and figure out how the industry works and if you even like being a truck driver before making a big commitment in buying your own truck . if you’re smart you track what your company truck is costing the company down to every penny . Ie fuel ,tire replacement ,every time the truck goes into the shop see if you can get the cost of repairs then after a few years decide if you want to take on the responsibility and stress of owning your own rig .
It’s not all sunshine and roses either , I tried owning my own dump truck and decided after a short time it wasn’t for me and I had the advantage of a no interest loan and had worked for my dads friends established company where he had spent years and years of hard work getting contracts and the work was handed to us with no effort on our parts . We had help with repairs and want not on every step on the way and We both gave it up because the money wasn’t there for all the fuel , repairs and time spent we were making . It’s not easy trying to make a good living as a o/o with the high fuel prices,inflation on everything and all these new start up carriers cutting rates down to nothing. Very few make it as a new owner op with what you’re trying to do as someone who’s new in the trucking industry unless you have a ton of money backing youLast edited: Feb 25, 2023
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I’d strongly suggest you reconsider leading a truck. Get on as a driver, get experience and learn the business from the inside out… before leasing.
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in every industry there's good and bad... im not afraid of hustle and hard work. im not looking for doom and gloom here... I know there's good solid work out there. I can afford to start out with buying an older well-running truck, i can fix things on it as well or there's mobile mechanics all around. I am not interested in working for $25-30/hour for another company. And yes, i understand that many won't hire new drivers. So, here I am looking for quality help with a mentor who would be willing to lead me in the right direction for landing contracts worth working for.
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So what are you going to do to make yourself stand out above all the other existing O/Os and /or small,medium or large fleets who are ALL looking for contracts worth working for?
Just curious
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The INFO, you got above IS QUALITY!
Right now, and for the foreseeable future, is not the time for someone to become an owner operator. Little less a rookie driver. As the above posted little steps.
Right now EVERYBODY is looking for that profitable hole to find to get thru this, so leads to good paying work are kept quiet, they are few and far between at the best of times with the big megas battling for them and driving rates down, what do you think is happening now?
But never mind, why listen to somebody who's been doing it for decades, and has witnessed SEVERAL economic downturns, you know best right?
Good luck. Wish you the best.carnabyfreight, Canadianhauler21, Russell The Trucker and 6 others Thank this. -
With no experience and an older truck about the best work you can expect to find would be hauling sea cans around the Vancouver area unless you are willing to go out and start knocking on doors looking for something better.Nobody is going to lead you towards a good contract, that is something you will have to do on your own.Canadianhauler21, Russell The Trucker, Another Canadian driver and 1 other person Thank this.
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Good contracts aren't good just because the customer hasn't had someone else offer to move it for a lower price. They're built over time, trust, dependability, etc. The key to success, as a small company, I've found, is to find those customers who value dependability, stability, basicly take care of all their transportation worries for whatever you are hauling for them. The customers who don't have 50 loads a day to move. Get in where you fit in. Keep the rate steady, they should keep the chequebook steady. There are times when someone will offer you a more attractive load, and there are times others will offer your customer a more attractive deal. Then you have to decide, both parties, what is more valuable. The current setup, or a 1-off "great deal."
Vancouver is oversaturated with carriers. Lots of it is owned by new Canadians, as are the businesses requiring trucking services. Guess who gets the work.
You need to determine what services you will offer. Power only? Flatbed? Dry? Reefer? Then, who will your target customers be? Direct? Brokers? Other carriers overflow? How are you going to get in touch with these people to let them know you're out here? Also, if you start by getting the work through price alone, they will want to pay you your cheap rate forever. You will lose if you go that route. I learned what lanes pay what rates through being signed on under someone else's authority before setting out on my own. I didn't see value giving up 20%, but the knowledge was key.
You know, I'd love another golden opportunity where someone went out bought a shiny new pete thinking it's a money printing machine, when the finance company takes it back I pick it up for a great price. I realize you are going to buy older but the point is the same, I'd rather someone know what they're getting into so they can make the best informed decision with realistic expectations. Too many dump piles of money in and lose it all. I'd rather not see that happen, some even lose the house or retirement savings. This industry chews up people and spits em out every day. All this isn't to spell doom and gloom, it's more of a, fair warning, I suppose.
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only problem is I read the port of Vancouver wants to band anything older then 10 years old , although i just read the start date has been pushed back for a third time so who knows when that will actually kick in . Depending on how old of a truck the op plans to buy that could be a very good way to start his business but I hear there’s not much money in hauling cans . Either way insurance will be the killer for him as a new o/o with no driving experienceCanadianhauler21, Another Canadian driver and Phantom Trucker Thank this. -
I am going to give you advice on mentorship. I won't go into the trucking part because everyone already ripped you apart.
If you are looking for a mentor (not just in trucking but anything), the first step is to provide value to that mentor which you did not. If I am a mentor and I am looking for people to take under my wing, why would I pick you over the hundreds of other people who need help. Are you willing to pay me? Are you willing to work for me for free? What do you offer/provide for the guidance? I can tell from your age and naivete that you have no experience in this which is completely fine and understandable but if you truly want to be an owner/operator which is essentially a business owner/entrepreneur, you will need to learn quickly how to run a business. It is easy to say, I don't want to work for $25-30 for a company but you will need to pay the bills somehow. People aren't going to hand you the best contract straight out the door cold without zero networking and reputation.
You are way in over your head and I don't even think you remotely realize it. I'm not discouraging you but merely asking you to be more realistic. Realize you will have to work harder than you ever had to in order to become a successful O/O.Canadianhauler21, Russell The Trucker, Another Canadian driver and 3 others Thank this.
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