Whose fault is it that the rates are so low?

Well, once again, and I sincerely don't mean this in a mean way, but it sounds like you're getting butt hurt by people who say "don't haul cheap freight. "
Well, what's cheap to you might be just right for me.
Example, I live in Albany GA. It's about 150 miles from Atlanta. If a D/H out of Atlanta paid $400 to get me home, I'd be all over it. On the other hand, if I was running the 48, there's no way in hell I'm going to Albany for $400.....especially out of Atlanta.
So, it's all about circumstances and needs many times. And I'd be danged if I'd let someone who knows NOTHING about my operation shame me into a dang thing.

The VERY FIRST LESSON you learn about driving a truck is, "You drive your truck, I'll drive mine."

 

Yes they come from somewhere. But how many come from a company job where they didn’t do any spot freight? Without knowing the answer to that it’s tough to say how new entrants effect spot rates. It’s also tough to act like record numbers of new entrants over the last couple years and the current low spot rates is just some sort of coincidence.

 

I posted an example a few weeks ago how a “cheap” load added 30 cents all miles after lease and fuel to a three load triangle to get me home. It delivered 45 minutes from my house instead of bouncing 7 hours. I understand what some say but I also don’t believe that load would’ve sat on the dock if I hadn’t hauled it. We’ve had arguments in the past but I see what you’re saying here. I also think that plenty of people haul loads that they’ll never admit to hauling.

 

Well, Joe, I think you're taking it too personally.
You ain't gotta pay my bills and I ain't gotta pay yours; nor anyone else's.
I run my house the way I think is best, and I'm sure you do as well.
What I (used to) run for and what I get paid is / was my business. And I didn't give 2 ####z what anyone else was making; never once cared a bit. And I don't know why you seem to.

Good luck @TallJoe . Run your business as you see fit and don't let others beat you down.

I'm out

 

Joe, I'm not trying to be rude or cruel to you in any way. I've read a lot of your comments. Just because you are fine with running at low rates just to keep running, that's your prerogative. You don't need to piss on anyone else because they refuse to run they're equipment for just over fuel money. You're not teaching anyone anything. You're not proving anything. You're not convincing anyone here that your way is right.
A lot of these folks been in business a long time. You know why? Because they didn't haul for nothing. And they knew when it wasn't worth it. Had enough in the bank to wait out these kinda times or to be selective.
As for people saying you're part of the problem, yes and no. Freight is in the dumper because of the current economy. You hauling for scratch just enforces shippers and brokers that it's "ok" to offer these rates because operators like you are willing to haul for it. Therefore they don't need to offer better rates. So technically, operators like yourself are part of the problem.
This is only my opinion and I'm not crapping on how you choose to run your business. It's your business. But your posts seem like you're trying to justify what you're doing and you're looking for others to support those decisions. They're not going to.

 

Good god joe . how long are ya gonna beat the horse?

 

Lol