Shops fined for emissions 'defeat devices', no warranty

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  1. WitchingHour

    WitchingHour Road Train Member

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    Only from emissions, not safety. We can go through the book if you’d like once I get home. For now, you’ll note that the only thing the official NCDMV site lists as being exempted from the safety inspection are vehicles more than 30 years old.

    Official NCDMV: Vehicle Safety Inspection

    Emissions inspections, and the 19 counties which require them. The ONLY place it mentions anything about an exemption for diesel powered vehicles. Once again, emissions in those counties is OBD only - checking for the presence of required emissions controls for that make/model/year of vehicle and the appearance of them being operational is part of the safety inspection. Come in with a missing EAS, a cat which had obviously been cut open to gut it and then had the plate welded back on, etc., I will fail that vehicle. They might appeal it to License and Theft - I’ve already had that happen - I will win that one, because it IS part of the safety inspection. Now if you’re domiciled in a non-emissions county and you have all of those components, inspection stations even in emissions counties will do safety only. So if all of that is in place, appears to be functional, and there’s an illuminated CEL/MIL, you won’t fail for that.

    Official NCDMV: Vehicle Emission Inspection

    FAQs… nothing really all that helpful as far as CMVs and diesel powered vehicles go, except to clarify that vehicles over 8500 GVWR, while being exempt from emissions, are still subject to safety.

    Official NCDMV: Emissions and Safety Inspections FAQs

    You may also notice the only mention of exempt plate types were antique plates in the case of safety and farm tags in the case of emissions.
     
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  3. nikmirbre

    nikmirbre Road Train Member

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    I read all that, still not sure. My F450 which is my personal vehicle, ive never gotten any kind of inspection. Registration in my personal name and up to date(as you know they block registration if you dont pay taxes/inspection) Thats what they do on my other gas vehicles.

    My trucks......all registered and plated here in NC, have never gotten a safety inspection. Only reason I can think of one one of my trucks is because its a glider kit. When I bought it I had to go to the theft bureau and they verified the VIN, that was all.
     
  4. Smellfunny

    Smellfunny Road Train Member

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    I had a guy that does deletes recently tell me he went over to the state capital and they had him bypass all of the trash trucks because they could not keep them out of the shop. So if the State can do it then the average joe should be able to as well.
     
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  5. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member

    Freightliner dealer in Lancaster, Pa is now $250/hr with a 2 hr minimum. Charged me $495 "diagnostic fee" and diagnosis was wiggling wires on the PNDM ... day one in shop 45 minutes.
    ordered part to arrive next day and guess what, the clock starts again. Hour later truck is done but another 2hr@250 because truck was driven out of the shop the day before. AND a "software fee" of $495 added to it as part of the installation. This part does not require computer hook up for diagnosis or installation. Beware if you are in the area.

    And no, the shop rate is not posted.
     
  6. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    That's ####ed. I've worked at a couple huge dealer chains (one had over 100 locations in their network) and they've never had shop rates nearly that high.
     
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  7. bzinger

    bzinger Road Train Member

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    I belive all the dealer shops in omaha are over 200.00 an hour now , I know the only business they see from my fleet is warranty work .
     
  8. Diesel Dave

    Diesel Dave Last Few of the OUTLAWS

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    How much did they charge you for Misc. Shop supplies ?
     
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  9. roshea

    roshea Road Train Member

    whatever it was was minimal, you know, "we saved you a few dollars"
     
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