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How do you have to pay a fine for a warning?

 

Except he got a warning and the company got a ticket. I’m speculating, the officer viewed the weight imbalance of the spread as a maintenance issue above the driver level and that’s why the company was ticketed? I’m not sure. Either way, the driver shouldn’t be paying any part of the fine. However, it IS the driver’s responsibility to make sure axle weights are good. When the imbalance is seen by the driver, then, it needs to be written up, so the shop can get things sorted. Of course, that’s probably another whole fiasco.

 

I would read your contract. But making sure you weight is legal, is the drivers responsibility. I can only assume that the company is tied of paying overweight fines, because drivers are not making the load legal.

 

How much is this ticket…….?

 

Warning tickets harm your PSP file for 3 years. I never got a ticket, other than overweight, in 28 years and thought my record was clear. I checked my PSP file with the FMCSA and 3 warning tickets violations are listed in it. Never cross a scale with any violation, is the lesson I learned. Minor violations are violations. Warning tickets are tickets, in some sense.

 

Size and weight violations are NOT part of the CSA program.

Now, to the OP: So you drove into a scale without a clue you were heavy? That's on you. If you don't have a suspension pressure gauge to estimate weight on drives, and are unable to eyeball the load and see that's it's loaded too far back, and don't verify with a scale ticket, and yet it shouldn't be on you? <insert facepalm>

 

OK you are leased, which makes this a contractual issue.

Got to tell you, if another lease owner gets a fine, it isn't your problem, they can't apply it to you.

this is a cheap company.

That's the crux of this, the issue isn't with the warning, that's the company's problem, the issue is working outside the contract as if this driver was an employee.

There is an issue with the contract, if it isn't in the contract what to do, how to do it, and so on, then the company can't do much other than to release the owner from the contract and call it a day. The contract is supposed to spell all of this out without any ambiguity, if it doesn't then the company can't go back and make policies to punish someone for an action of another company-wide, that's a breach of contract when that happens and the company can be sued.

Now if the contract says that the owner has to follow specific policies, which in my case my contracts with my drivers do have that clause, then the company has an obligation to have the said policies in the hands of the drivers/owners long before they become effective and there should be a means in which an acknowledgment that the driver/owner is aware of the policy or its changes.

I'll repost what I said before ...

Which one is it?

These are three different and distinct things.

ALSO what state?

Yes, it is supposed to be in the lease agreement as part of the defined responsibilities.

 

They may not be part of the program but they're still listed on the report

 

not to be a dick but like what did you do wrong do a pretrip maybe next time stop this lease BS its all a scam!

 

How is leasing your truck to a carrier a scam? Or are you confusing being leased to a carrier and doing a lease purchase from a carrier?