Hello,
I'm not a truck driver but I'm working on making a better fridge for family road trips and was thinking it may be useful to truck drivers.
I added an internal fan to an igloo 60 quart cooler. I've also made a few other improvements, here are the pros and cons:
Pros:
1. The fan blows on ice that sits in a bucket so there is no watery mess.
2. The hottest part of a cooler, just under the lid, drops down to 42F with a fan, enough to keep perishables from spoiling. With out a fan it's 60F just under the lid. The outside ambient was 80F for these tests.
3. The ice can be replaced when you stop for gas, it runs with one 10lb bag.
4. There's more room for food because the ice is off to the side in a bucket.
5. It doesn't use much power. The fan only needs 2-3W. It runs off a 12V/24 outlet and charges a battery pack that will run for 12 hours when the engine is off.
6. It can cool a warm drink down faster than a real fridge, easily in 30 min.
Cons:
1. The ice retention is lower. The ice will not last about as long as compared to 'no fan'. A 10lb bucket would take about 8 hours to melt but it should be changed out at about 6 hours.
2. It's no good for frozen food because the fan is trying to equalize everything to the same temperature, which is somewhere above freezing. So it acts like a defroster for frozen foods. So the trade off is poorer ice retention in exchange for something that approaches fridge temperatures.
There is some room for improvement. For example the lid of the igloo cooler was not insulated so I filled it with spray foam, a hack job. The lid was still cool/cold to the touch. I'm also looking at other coolers and other insulating materials, I may just design a new cooler.
I tested it on a long road trip and it worked fine. We had milk, cheese and yogurt in it for a week at a time and nothing spoiled. When we pulled in to a hotel/motel I just dumped out the ice bucket and filled it at the ice machine. It still worked well with crappy hotel ice
Questions:
1. Does this sound useful for truckers? Or do truckers simply install a compressor fridge?
2. What is a typical size cooler that truckers use? I chose 60 quarts for mine but it could easily make it bigger or smaller.
3. What about the position of the lid? Most coolers have the lid on top and I was thinking about a double door version on the front, like a french door fridge. Makes it easier to have shelves but that may be worse if the cooler is low on the ground and you need to crouch down..
Any thoughts/comments appreciated,
-jason
A Better Fridge
Discussion in 'Experienced Truckers' Advice' started by jasonkooner, Jul 25, 2023.
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I'm all for building a better mousetrap but what you don't realize is more and more companies are installing refrigerators in their company trucks for their drivers. Most of those are compressor-driven.
For those drivers who don't have company-installed refrigerators, most of them purchase 12V coolers/refrigerators from various places (truckstops. Amazon, etc).Flat Earth Trucker and tscottme Thank this. -
Thank you for thinking about truck driver needs. However there are already such things that don't need ice, but use electricity. They sell for $120 to $300 for portable units with small dorm fridge units built in to trucks that costs $600-ish.
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I have gotten excellent service from a $79 dorm style fridge I got from Walmart a couple of years ago.
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Great idea and good on you but it’s a market that China has a choke hold on.
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Nobody wants to deal with ice if they don't have to.
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Truck fridges are using 12 volt compressors and that is reflected in the price. For the normal camping people, cooler type fridges are used, costing $800 plus and they work, I see this ice a/c thing advertised everywhere, ice doesn’t have the btu to transfer the heat fast enough and where can you find ice in some places which makes it useless.
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A cooler with ice doesn't keep things cold long enough and will get expensive overtime because of the purchase of ice. Some drivers stay out weeks even months at a time. In my opinion it's a bad idea.
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The big challenge is the rise of small heat pumps leading to efficient portable fridge freezers without the ice mess
Yor fan is pulling 0.25 amps while my jeep fridge keeps things at ~38F while pulling about 0.8 amps.
Modern BLDC motors can move 3 calories for every 1 calorie of input. And you can have a freezer too.
All of this without the stale cooler smell.
While I do have dual batteries in my Jeep, I can go on a hike for days in the Mojave and still come back to popsicles with no problem.
That said as mentioned above, refrigerators are almost a requirement in today trucks as your are typically parked away from ice sources for longer than your timeline above.
Drivers using a sleeper berth must take at least 8 hours in the sleeper berth and may be hours away from a fuel stop almost daily.
So probably not the best application for your invention. -
The best thing you could try to engineer is a (compressor)refrigerator that doesn't cost $1,000+. I have no idea why they're that expensive when a dorm fridge is $100-150.
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