Buggers finally got me, double broker scam.

Discussion in 'Freight Broker Forum' started by PPNLE, Jul 25, 2023.

  1. Long FLD

    Long FLD Road Train Member

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    I only have experience with blind shipments as a company driver. We didn’t have to check in as a different carrier, the wholesaler didn’t want his customer to know where the particle board came from because he didn’t want the place we delivered it to to cut him out and go direct. So we’d load in Montana and fill out a generic BOL for the place we would deliver to out in Washington.

    In this day and age I’d be suspicious of someone asking me to check in as a different carrier.
     
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  3. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    Our customer. Double brokered. Even if blind BOL's, not the carrier that was assigned.
     
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  4. keebler13579

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    Im not reading the rest of the thread so this may have been stated . New scam is they ask for a copy of your cdl then change some legal documents with fmcsa to their address and email address so they can haul under your numbers
     
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  5. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    That's been going on for a while. Same as the update your MCS-150, then change everything.
     
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  6. IH Truck Guy

    IH Truck Guy Road Train Member

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    Seems to me we didn’t have these issues back in the trip lease days.
    You had to physically stop at the agent's office to pick up your door signs ..lol
     
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  7. wichris

    wichris Road Train Member

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    We didn't let everyone and their brother get authority either. It was a PITA to go 50 miles out of the way to get the signs.
     
  8. IH Truck Guy

    IH Truck Guy Road Train Member

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    True enough.
    And I'll admit to only putting the signs on 25% of the time. Lol
     
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  9. xsetra

    xsetra Road Train Member

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    Example.
    I load guard rail in Texas using my name. My customer the guard rail broker/seller he did not want his customer in Nebraska to know where
    the guard rail came from. Also did not want the shipper in Texas to know where the guard rail was going.
    I sign shipping paperwork. Then I made a BOL showing me as transporting the guard rail from Florida to Nebraska, that I presented at delivery for my POD.

    I'm sure quoted origin of product affected the freight cost. I talked to guard rail shipper about the selling price. His selling price was around $9,000. I got paid about $3,500.
    I heard the customer say he paid $17,000 for each load. He ordered 6 truck loads. He was making a fence for his bison to pasture.
     
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  10. Lyle H

    Lyle H Road Train Member

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    We haul bagged salt to a customer that the broker doesn’t want the customer to know where the salt comes from. We make a blind bol for the load.
    On the bags of salt are the name, address and phone number of the shipper.
    Go figure…..
     
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  11. LoneRanger

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    so let me ask this question if broker didn’t want customer to know name and shipper to know customer, how did the customer order items?

    I mean in wholesale when I ordered truckloads I knew where I was getting my items from.

    just wondering.


    Also

    similar to double brokering is also happening in my current line of work and on top of that this next example as well. More than one person is dispatched to the same job. So who ever gets their first gets paid. Big companies are playing with the little guys.
     
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