Once I finished trucking school I figured it took me a full 2 months to land my first job. I applied to both cdl and non-cdl jobs just to see what would stick. One of my strategies was to look for employers that were ‘urgently hiring’ figuring they were desperate for drivers. Some companies were responsive and some weren’t.
My question is, isn’t it a bit counterproductive for companies to pass on new applicants with no experience but have the proper credentials versus trying to find the perfect candidate with 10 years of experience with a spotless driving record? I understand that new drivers are a liability but I’m still seeing the same companies hiring for the same class b positions. Not saying I’m entitled to an interview let alone a job but if you’re a business it would seem that fulfilling a crucial position is necessary to run a successful business. What am I missing?
One of the first jobs I applied to was a flower company. According to Indeed, the position I applied to had 100+ applicants. 3 months later the company is still advertising for the same job. I find it hard to believe that out of 100+ applicants the company still hasn’t hired anyone, even if you eliminate applicants who don’t have a cdl, driving violations, etc. Perhaps this is a red flag for companies to avoid? I was watching a video on YouTube about things to look out for when applying for new jobs is the position itself and how long the job posting has been up. The person in the video was a recruiter and basically said that the question you should be asking is, why hasn’t the position been filled and how many applicants have you hired for this role?
Question about job postings
Discussion in 'Questions From New Drivers' started by HankScorpio, Sep 4, 2023.
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It's mostly an insurance thing with drivers, but is also a liability and experience thing. It's easier to wait 2 weeks for the perfect candidate than it is to spend 6 months with a new driver learning how to be a professional. The market in trucking is at a low spot as well. Most companies are barely profiting, if profiting at all, running trucks at the moment. Lots of companies are losing money everyday. Give it a year or two and you'll be able to walk in almost anywhere and land a job. During the pandemic, tons of companies were lowering their hiring standards just to fill every seat possible.
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Well, first, I wouldn't believe this "Indeed" crap, and 2nd, yes, it's not unheard of for a company to have 100 applicants, and nobody hired. Why? Same old thing, nobody can pass a background or drug check.I read a while back, UP railroad had a bunch of openings in the yard in N. "Splatte", and out of 300 applicants, like 4 passed the checks. On a recent car trip cross country, I noticed trucking firms, mostly Wisconsin, with 20 or 30 tractors just sitting and everyone with a banner waving in the wind, "Now hiring", yeah, like they are the only ones.
As for your 2nd paragraph, there are no drivers with 10 years and spotless records looking for a job. Most have what they want, and companies have no choice. It's a dire situation, for sure. What to do? Think outside the box and forget this electronic crap. BTW, I realize the irony of that statement typing on a laptop, but go in and talk to these people. Decide what exactly you want to do, and pursue the companies that do that. We have here at your disposal, one of the best job finders one could ask for, and it's literally free. Stay away from "urgently hiring", as that's a red flag. Remember, there's probably a job opening because someone else quit. Chinatown has a slew of possibilities, but be specific, and he'll surely give you plenty of places. Go in to these places IN PERSON. Shows you care and I all but guarantee, you'll be driving that next day. Good luck, keep us posted, and I thought Hank Scorpio was awesome!Flat Earth Trucker Thanks this. -
Good companies have to listen to their insurance company requirements. If 100 applicants without those requirements apply, they will not hire those applicants. It's easy to want to bend the rules when it is someone else that will pay if they screw up. NOBODY plans on having a wreck or damaging customer property, but it still happens. The insurance companies know which type of drivers are causing claims. Feel free to start your own company and hire anyone you like, just remember you need insurance and if you ignore what those insurance companies require they will reject your claim and you get to pay for the damage out of your pocket.
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My insurance company gives me the cost added to include a new driver on a policy if not flat out say no. The rate can be acceptable, high, or absurd. Minimum of two year’s experience is required for mine. That’s a hurdle for a new guy.
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We get a huge break on our insurance if we require five years experience. It's also a lot easier on us and our equipment. After five years a driver has probably made most of the "dumb rookie" mistakes and learned his lessons by tearing up somebody else's trucks.
Also, after five years a driver has probably figured out how to get along with people and how to be part of a crew. That benefits everyone.88 Alpha, tscottme, HankScorpio and 1 other person Thank this. -
that was kinda my point. If you’re an experienced driver you’re not applying to a job that’s urgently hiring unless it pays just as well or better than you’re current job. You basically have more leverage to earn higher wages. So in this scenario, are companies looking for anyone with at least 1 year of experience and zero problems?201 Thanks this.
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I remember a few years ago we hired a flatbed driver with 20+ years experience. He knew it all. "If it fits on a flatbed, I've hauled it!" You couldn't tell that guy anything he didn't already know. First day on his own we gave him a load with a bunch of cable reels. He had no idea what to do, and wouldn't listen to anyone trying to help him. He walked out about a week later.
More recently, we hired a young kid who just got his cdl last year from a one day course. He worked for a beverage company a few months before coming to us and that was the extent of his driving experience. He is doing great, one of the best drivers we have ever had.celticdriver23, homeskillet and HankScorpio Thank this. -
A lot of co's get a pulse on what's happening in their industry by running ads for new employees. Kind of a way to find out about their competition. For instance, during the interview, the new hire talks about his previous employers and so forth. Also, running a "hiring" ad and seeing how many people apply can inform the co how good or bad the industry might be. I was told this many years ago by a car dealer who was always running big "hiring" ads. But never really actually needing new people, except occasionally.
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Yep
A lot of companies don’t have empty positions but Constantly running the “now hiring “ ads and judging from the number of calls they get , they know if they need to raise the pay or not .
If they get plenty of qualified people calling they don’t need to worry about making the current drivers happy
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