Differential troubles

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  1. masteron

    masteron Bobtail Member

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    Hi

    Just got a truck at an auction, 1995 international 9400

    Got it up and running, hooked up the air to the power divider

    and the diff seized, had tow the truck, broke the pinon gear, crown and satellite gears on the front diff

    changed everything, got it up and running, and seized again

    This happened to the sat gears now[​IMG]
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    Any ideas ?
     
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  3. Heavyd

    Heavyd Road Train Member

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    Sounds like something isn't turning in the driveline after the front input and causing it to break. Put the axles up on jack stands and see what turns by hand and go from there.
     
  4. masteron

    masteron Bobtail Member

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    So past owner had 9/39 front 14/41 rears, found the culprit
     
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  5. skallagrime

    skallagrime Road Train Member

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    Thats quite special, hope your price was dirt cheap, 2 sets of rears isnt
     
  6. masteron

    masteron Bobtail Member

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    Thank god it was almost gifted
     
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  7. SmallPackage

    SmallPackage Road Train Member

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    So one is a 2.92 and the other is a 4.33? They must of just scrounged some centers up and threw them in to sell it. Just pull the interaxle drive shaft (jack shaft) and lock in the power divider. Should drive like a single screw to get it were you need to fix it.
     
  8. masteron

    masteron Bobtail Member

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    It was working, moving containers in a truck patio

    The mechanic cut the air to the interlock and called it a day

    We towed it back to our patio with another truck, now working on the rear dif, but can not get the new ring and pinon to match, guess they changed something else
     

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  9. Deezl Smoke

    Deezl Smoke Medium Load Member

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    The ring carrier has a ratio range limit.
     
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  10. masteron

    masteron Bobtail Member

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    Thanks ! So now on to find a carrier or machine a spacer
     
  11. Deezl Smoke

    Deezl Smoke Medium Load Member

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    So keeping in mind that I am not an educated engineer, just an old hack that's failed too many times, I'd do everything possible to not use a spacer.
    Reason?: The gear is hobbed from an alloy blend that allows for proper hardening post machining. Usually a form of "case" hardening which is why the hardened gear face can flake off. The carrier is cast from specific metallurgy to accept machining for the bearings and spider poles etc., also to accept the extreme side loading of the pinion trying to repel the ring gear. < is why I would not run a spacer. Each, the carrier and the ring gear are made to expand and contract at near equal rates with temperature. So you have just one mating surface to set the lash proper. If you insert a spacer machined from non-like metals, you now have 2 mating surfaces and the spacer holes ad length to the bolts, which allows more bolt stretch, and under extreme torque input of the pinion, 2 mating surfaces ads twice the opportunity for mating surface slippage.
    A proper carrier ratio range should be available for both rotations (the reverse rotation of the power divider head, and the rotation of the rear end), or at minimum for rare model, one end or the other.
    There's a place in Washington state "Inland gear" that I have used for rare hard to find stuff.
     
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