14 Hour HOS Question

I wasn't trying to call you out about how you conduct a pre-trip, just saying, that's gonna be a red flag at the scale house. Same thing is gonna apply with the split-rule. Nobody can understand it, cause you can argue anyways it violates the 14 hour rule. It's why most mega's don't allow it. Hell, most mega's don't allow personal conveyance (line5).

I guess, to answer your question, is do what you feel is applicable to FMCSA Guidelines, and let us know how it works out for you. And a lot of that will be dependant on if you are running paper logs or a digital ELD log and which software you are using. But you are definitely in a grey area, when it comes to FMCSA, Logging, and HOS rules.

 

Touche, my tractor has discs, but I was hauling an older Brenner tanker last week through VA, and the scale house had no problem measuring those drums. I was proud of him putting that shiny 2024 VA sticker on that old 1994 trailer

 

Okay, I'll stay on topic. The rules are so confusing that it's better to not use the split rule, do your unload, work out your 14 as best you can, then take another 10 hour break.

Honestly the best thing to do is get as close to your start time as possible so you can start your 14 right where you need to be at a certain date or time. If your unloading and you know they will take 6 hours and you cna do a 10 there is ideal.

 

Interesting that the Qualcomm will lengthen the 14 hr clock under these circumstances, because it is then predicting a future action on your part, namely a 7 - 8 hr stint in the sleeper.

But the TLDR answer is that the 14 hr clock is potentially lengthened after a minimum of 2 hours on lines 1 or 2 or a combination thereof.

 

@Barricadebouncer... that's why we all do the ELD creep. See if you can park somewhere to complete that 10 hr break without switching over to the drive line. If I can creep out at 4 MPH to finish my 10 hour break it's better

 

I sorta find your question confusing; if you looked at your clock after the 1h52m on duty and 1h56m in sleeper, you would have 10h12m left; but the moment you get a minimum of 2h in sb/od, that no longer counts against you. So 4min later, your eld will show 12h8m on clock and it will remain paused there until you start on duty/driving again, complete a 10, or uncheck the use split sleeper on eld. Some elds don’t give the option to not use split sleeper; my Qualcomm had a checkbox, but on platform science, I have to edit in 1s of on duty time to force it not to use a break.