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  1. JbugBDT

    JbugBDT Light Load Member

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    How’s it going fellow drivers, been looking into buying a truck. Been driving dump trucks tri-axles, and tractor trailer end dumps for about a year now. Found a tri-axle seller says it’s has 14k front axles and 19k rear axles. From research you add both rear axles making it 38k rears.
    My question to you guys is will I need to swap the front axle? In Indiana most trucks have 20k fronts and 46k rears, and they legally carry 23t.
     
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  3. Idaho MTN Driver

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    When you say tri-axle do you mean one steer axle, one lift axle and two drive axles? Or do you mean one steer axle and two drives axles? Because if it’s the latter, it is spec’d pretty light for a dump truck.

    If you’re going to be using the truck daily and your budget allows, my advice would be to find a factory built heavy-spec dump truck (46K rears, 3.90 or 4.10 gearing, lift axle, etc).

    There is no way I’d put 23 tons in the truck you mentioned in your post.
     
  4. JbugBDT

    JbugBDT Light Load Member

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    Yes, it has the steer axle, a push 20k push axle you can lift/lower with a button, and two axles in the back rated at 19k a piece
     
  5. Cdemars316

    Cdemars316 Heavy Load Member

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    You will be fine with those axles, it is spec'd exactly the same as a couple of the old tandem Mac's that we used at one of my old jobs, it was more than likely a road tractor at one point turned into a dump truck, my old job is still running those trucks today, one is a tri now one is still a tandem, both of them pull ups also which means they are pulling up to 80,000. In MN you are only allowed 50,000 as a tandem 56,000 as a tri, but both had aluminum boxes on hem and regularly loaded over 17 tons in the box alone
     
  6. JbugBDT

    JbugBDT Light Load Member

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    happy to hear you say that, the owner is telling me he hauls 28 tons daily with it. Which is kinda mind blowing to me with those axles
     
  7. Sons Hero

    Sons Hero Road Train Member

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    Indiana requires a 20k front axle on dump trucks. Not sure what his empty weight is on that thing, but I would guarantee he isn’t legal if he has 28 ton in the box!
     
  8. MACK E-6

    MACK E-6 Moderator Staff Member

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    Best to go heavier than 46K IMHO.

    I’ve loaded 14’ tandem dumps to 65K before and the drives would carry at least 51K of that. And the company always wondered why they kept breaking springs. 7000 lbs overloaded every time will do that at some point.
     
  9. AModelCat

    AModelCat Road Train Member

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    Those are rear ends meant for box haulers who never leave the pavement.

    Will they work? Yes, for a while.

    Are they the best option? No.
     
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  10. JbugBDT

    JbugBDT Light Load Member

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    I’m looking to get 23 tons daily in it i know the motor can handle it not sure about the rest of the truck
     
  11. JbugBDT

    JbugBDT Light Load Member

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    Gotcha! I asked this same question over on a Facebook semi truck page. A lot of people were saying the exact same thing.
     
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