Mechanic Says My Main Diff Has Excessive Wear 2021 Pete 389

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  1. GoldDot40

    GoldDot40 Light Load Member

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    2021 Pete 389 18sp with 205K miles on it. Started getting a roar in the clutch release bearing. Had a shop go in and confirm...replaced all components with a clutch kit.

    Mechanic calls and says truck is ready...BUT...upon checking out the rest of the drivetrain, he says the front/main diff shows signs of excessive wear. Said there was excessive backlash/slop in it. Says all U joints are still nice and tight. Goes on to say we'll likely be having it rebuilt sooner than later.

    I don't abuse the truck, jerk it around, slam the gears or anything. The ONLY thing I can come up with (as a feasible possibility)....is maybe hauling excessive weight. 95% of my loads has a total weight of 94-95K lbs. Would this be a likely cause for wear so soon?
     
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  3. OlegMel

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    I would get a second opinion from a driveshaft shop. Find a good reputable shop near you that specialises just in drivetrain and have them take a look at it. Also, I would drain the oil or And takeoff the drain plug and inspect it for shavings. Excessive backlash will always cause shavings. Judging by the mileage it is way too soon for differential testing go bad even with 90,000 lb loads, unless you have a Light duty differential and Drive in the mountains. The differentials are Built to last over 1,000,000 miles with proper maintenance
     
  4. Deere hunter

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    Pull your drain plug and check your oil for any silver glitter check your magnet for excessive shavings. If looks good and no excessive shavings on your plug fill it back up and run it.
    My money would be on you had a false diagnosis.
     
  5. AModelCat

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    95k is no big deal. Those diffs should have no problem with that.
     
  6. Deere hunter

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    I hate to say it, but, 205K on that truck you probably just needed a good clutch adjustment. Those forks on that transmission are very close to the pressure plate. When it gets out of adjustment, the back of the forks hit the fingers on the pressure plate. Finding a reputable mechanic is a tough job. There are still quite a few out here, but you need to really know your mechanic. Or learn a few things on your own it will save you a ton of money in the end.
     
  7. BoxCarKidd

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    Mileage and weight is not normally an issue. Getting stuck in a mud hole and running the engine at high RPM can smoke the power divider and or differential spider gears in short order. I have seen local vocational trucks with a 1/4 turn slop on the input yoke. They said it is not broke do not fix it. Amazing how long some of those run.
    I would get on out of there and check the things the others said.
     
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  8. GoldDot40

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    The clutch has had a "rattle" at interstate speeds since the truck was new. I had the clutch adjusted every 50K miles. The rattle went away the very 1st time I had it adjusted. It would eventually come back close to 50K miles after an adjustment...but an adjustment always made it go away.

    It was due for a clutch adjustment when it started this roaring and I actually DID have it adjusted when I 1st heard it start to make the roaring noise. The roar was completely gone for about 2 days, then came back and kept getting louder and more intense.

    I saw the release bearing they took out. It was definitely shot. It also appearee to have been over-greased (by the local truck lube)...which forced the liquid petroleum from the grease and found it's way onto the clutch brake...it was shot too...still worked, but not great. The clutch friction looked pretty good...still had a lot of material left on it. But when you go into one THAT far, might as well install a new kit with 205K.

    Also repaired a rear main seal leak on the engine while the trans was out. I got it back today. I can honestly say the drivetrain (clutch and transmission) has never been so smooth and quiet even when the truck was new.
     
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  9. GoldDot40

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    Truck has 46K rears in it. Yes, probably 75% of all my loads are in the Appalachian mountains. Lots of switchback curves and steep grades. She definitely gets put to work daily. We haul fuel. 9200 gallons of ULSD is pretty heavy.
     
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  10. Deere hunter

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    Well, to have to adjust a clutch every 50,000 and then it be totally gone at 205,000. I agree something was definitely wrong.
     
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  11. Heavyd

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    How is he measuring? What exactly is he saying has too much play? If all they are doing is turning the yoke back and forth, there is a fair amount of "play" there as you are spinning againsts several gear sets, 2 differential sets and pinion and crown. I have see guys get worried about it before when nothing is wrong. Check yours with another truck. Like mentioned, check the drain plug and oil for excessive metal and get a second opinion.
     
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